“Your health is your wealth.” - Matt Archer
In this episode of the Deep Wealth Podcast, host Jeffrey Feldberg talks to Dr. Matt Archer, chiropractor and author of 'The Protocol for Health: Seven Unexpected Solutions'. They discuss the connection between optimal health and financial wealth, focusing on the impact of lifestyle choices and dietary habits on overall well-being. Dr. Archer emphasizes the importance of a balanced, nutrient-rich diet along with simple physical activities such as walking. He also highlights the role of managing stomach acid and gut health in nutrient absorption. The conversation also touches on the healthcare industry and common misconceptions about health, like the belief that ill health is a natural process of aging. Dr. Archer encourages listeners to prioritize their health to unlock deep wealth.
02:44 Dr. Matt's Journey into Chiropractic and Applied Kinesiology
04:30 The Skeptical Approach to Muscle Testing and Health
05:53 The Protocol for Health: Seven Unexpected Solutions
11:56 The Importance of Health in Business Success
13:05 The Misconceptions of Modern Medicine
18:18 The Protocol for Health: Walking and Zinc Deficiency
19:05 The Impact of Weak Stomach Acid and Intestinal Infection
23:39 The Importance of Blood Sugar Stability
25:11 Understanding the Role of Adrenals and Cortisol
27:07 The Complexity of the Human Body and Health
28:10 The Process of Working with a Health Coach
29:44 The Journey to Optimal Performance and Health
31:58 The Importance of Time Investment in Your Health
37:05 The Power of Simple Health Changes
40:40 The Importance of Health as Your First Wealth
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At the end of this episode, take a moment and hear from business owners like you, who went through the Deep Wealth Experience. Dr. Matt Archer took a skeptical approach to manual muscle testing, applied kinesiology and chiropractic, and developed an incredible effective system described in his book, The Protocol for Health, Seven Unexpected Solutions. While often contrary to popular ideas, the protocol has a sensible foundation that simplifies healthcare and is effective with a full spectrum of symptoms.
He practices in Northern [00:02:00] California and consults remotely.
Welcome to the Deep Wealth Podcast. You heard it in the official introduction, the doctor is in the house. I repeat the doctor's in the house. We're going to have a lot of fun in this episode, but you know me, I love my rhetorical questions. And for all of you out there in deep wealth land, here's the question for you.
How are you feeling these days? Are you waking up the same old, which includes some pain, some inflammation. You're not quite having that spring in the step that you used to have. Maybe some brain fog. Maybe you're not as sharp as you used to be. Maybe you're falling asleep, but it's only one in the afternoon.
We're going to talk all about that and more, but let me put a pause on that right there. Dr. Matt, welcome to the Deep Wealth Podcast. Really excited to have you with us today, but I'm curious before we get going, there's always a story behind the story. What's your story, Dr. Matt? What got you from where you were to where you are today?
Dr. Matt Archer: Well, thanks so much, Jeffrey. Thanks for having me. Yeah. Let's see. my mom started practicing chiropractic when I was in junior high and she she fell into a technique called [00:03:00] applied kinesiology, And with that, over the years, while I was doing international travel and extreme sports and all kinds of stuff, she help me with things like international parasites and recover from injuries and a whole variety of things like that. And I saw that she had a great lifestyle and a lot of people in the community who really respected the work that she did and, does and credit her for recovery from all kinds of things.
I was, fairly free spirit in my 20s, and I was on a silent meditation course in India, and I had this aha moment of, wow, it's time to be a chiropractor, and it was just crystal clear, so that was really great to know when it was time. I came home to the States and did work to finish up prerequisites and went to chiropractic school, and in chiropractic school, I started studying with the International College of Applied Kinesiology outside of school.
And early on I put my [00:04:00] hand up and I said, I know that there's lots of good doctors who definitely help people with this technique and my mom's one of them and but this muscle testing seems kind of flimsy, it just wasn't very clear and it's generally is based on timing and so if the timing's off a little bit then you get different answers and unfortunately that's what the studies show about applied kinesiology is they can't get Prove accuracy or reproducibility.
That's what I was feeling as I was trying to learn how to do it. So I asked some questions and the doctor teaching the course didn't like me very much, but he gave me some interesting answers that helped me to take a skeptical approach. And, what I wanted to see was A clear baseline before trying to get answers about what foods people should eat or if they should wear blue sunglasses or, like all kinds of obscure things.
And I wanted to see strong versus weak with any muscle in the body before we started trying to get answers about all these other things. And it took quite a few years to put it [00:05:00] together. It took humility and being willing to call my mom into the room when I couldn't get started with somebody on the table because I couldn't get any clear baseline.
But she helped me to get that, and it reveals a whole lot more than just More clear muscle testing. It enables us to avoid a lot of the peripheral BS that I think you can get distracted by and to really zero in on truly causative issues that are really foundational, fundamental to the nervous system and to our health.
And when we identify those pieces and address those pieces, then the results that we get in healthcare are like nothing I've heard about from any other source. The consistency with which I can just guarantee people. When they walk in the room and sit down and they tell me about whatever long, complicated condition and all the specialists they've been [00:06:00] to I just can say from experience that we don't miss if they'll spend eight weeks with me, you know, follow up five or six times over the course of eight weeks and apply the main seven pieces of my protocol.
The book I published is The Protocol for Health, Seven Unexpected Solutions, and I find that most people are dealing with these main seven pieces, and when we address those with people over the course of a few weeks burn near everything gets better, as long as there's not established cancer or, damage to a nerve or tissue that can't be undone we basically win with all conditions and that if you've followed much in healthcare.
You know that that sounds impossible, people don't get the guarantee results with migraines and hormones and autoimmunity and chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia and all those things. But so far we haven't missed, you know, will somebody walk in the room one day that we [00:07:00] can't get to the bottom of it?
Probably, but it hasn't happened so far. So that's the journey that I went on to get to where I am.
Jeffrey Feldberg: Dr. Matt, what a great journey. There's so much there to unpack. And for our listeners in the show notes, everything will be point and click. And I recommend go to the show notes, pick up a copy of the book, The Protocol for Health: Seven Unexpected Solutions. And Dr. Matt, let me ask you this before we start doing some deep dives with some rabbit holes that we're going to go down here momentarily.
I like what you said at the beginning, you're fairly skeptical when you first began your own journey, you were asking all the questions. Was there a particular incident or some piece of information that once you went through that or that you heard that your skepticism said, Oh, okay, I now get it. It makes sense.
I'm now an advocate of it. Or was it just the whole journey itself?
Dr. Matt Archer: Well, Let's see, the system of applied kinesiology, as it was taught in that seminar was super complicated and, the doctor was like, do this, and then If the results that you get [00:08:00] don't add up, then they're switching in the system and then backup and undo this and undo that and resort all these things.
And I was like, wait a second, why don't we just get a clear baseline to start with so we don't have to back up and Keep track of that many different things. Let's, try to make it simple. Like health should be simple.
So what he said is he said, well, there's some people who say that we should all weaken to this reflex point in between the eyebrows.
And there's a bunch of things that interfere with that. And you might try and figure out what those are. And I thought, okay, well, that seems like as good a place to start as any. And it took several years to get it sorted out. But there's eight factors that interfere with that reflux. And it takes about five minutes or less to address those eight factors, at least in a temporary, workaround kind of means.
So that with a super strong, a person twice my size, or, really big, strong, muscly person on the table. I can go from putting all my weight on a limb [00:09:00] to using one finger and pushing that same leg or arm to the table. And it looks like a circus act or, some magic show or something, but it's just about getting clear information through the nervous system.
It's just about that reflex point, why do people weaken when they touch between the eyebrows? I have no idea. Most people don't right off the bat. Most people have several factors that interfere with it. Once we've got that, then the timing of muscle testing disappears. I say you push first.
Are you pushing? And then I increase pressure. I match their force, and then I increase pressure from there. And so it's slow. It's really, it's stupid obvious, I've got a video on my website that shows me muscle testing a big strong guy on the table and yeah, all my weight versus one finger when they touch that reflex point and I can do that consistently with anybody.
Like I'd love to, I'd love to work with somebody and like go into a gym and lay five guys down on the table and the biggest, [00:10:00] strongest people we can find and show that over and over that we can get that kind of clear baseline. Then it's a leap of faith for people to say, well, what does that actually mean?
But what it means is that we can get clear answers about what foods actually work and what foods actually don't work and whether your exercise is balanced. Are you getting enough aerobic exercise? versus your anaerobic identify vitamin and mineral deficiencies that you can't find with laboratory tests because deficiencies aren't about what's going on in the blood.
They're what's going on in the tissues. And we don't get to sample. We don't take biopsies of tissues to determine calcium deficiency or magnesium deficiency or B12 or all those other things. So. When you can get information through the nervous system, then you come to realize, well, what could possibly be more effective than clear answers through a person's own nervous system, because it reveals.
The biggest blind spots in health care that when we address those, like all of a [00:11:00] sudden people can absorb nutrients and all of a sudden the gut microbiome stops being such a big mystery. And like intermittent fasting versus should we be eating frequent protein? And like it just, it makes it obvious when a person's eating too much carbohydrates or overtraining, it creates an obvious pattern of weakness.
We don't have to wonder about it. So, maybe that answered the question. Maybe I spun off in a couple other directions, but but that's where it's led me.
Jeffrey Feldberg: So let me ask you this, and firstly for our listeners, I'm just gonna put this out there, this is not medical advice by any stretch. Anything that you're gonna do ahead of time, please check with your doctor. And that said though, so Dr. Matt, what I love about it in the book, you take what is often a very complex subject, and anything that I'm about to say now, there's no disrespect to the medical system or to the doctors, I know every healthcare professional is doing the best that they can with what they have.
It seems as though that the system is set up against us. And if we take a step back here, big picture wise, here at Deep Wealth, [00:12:00] we believe, and we put this out there, not only believe it, we know it, that our first wealth is our health. If we're not healthy, how are you going to have a profitable business?
How are you going to have the energy, the mind clarity, the ability to come up with strategies that create a market disruption, the energy to have a liquidity event, If you're not healthy, so whatever's going on on the inside, it's going to manifest itself in our outer world. It could be having a business that maybe isn't growing as much.
Maybe it even goes out of business. Maybe you're losing the liquidity event. It's a lose lose. But what I love what you did in the book, you took a lot of noise that's out there. You took a lot of complexity and you boiled it down to here are seven areas. That one followed, and it doesn't have to cost a lot of money.
It doesn't take a lot of time. We're just not hearing about this. We're not educated about this. So let's, for our listeners, talk about what isn't working for them in the sense that I know there's some listeners that are saying, well, wait a minute, Dr. Matt and Jeffrey, I'm hearing you loud and clear. I just saw my family doctor.
I have my annual physical. They [00:13:00] ran all the tests, all the blood, all the white coats were there. It looks very official and I felt pretty good coming out of it. And I was told that I was in all the right levels. What's wrong with that picture? Can we real, can we take the curtain and just unmask it of what's really happening there?
Dr. Matt Archer: Yeah. Right. it's amazing how often people come to me with a lot of bad symptoms, significant issues and they say, yeah, I had all the tests done and they said everything's fine. That it's ridiculous how common that is. And, it's because our health system is about identifying and managing disease.
It's really not about creating health. There's huge blind spots in modern medicine, like you go in, you get a blood test and it says, Oh yeah your calcium levels are excellent. We just don't know why your bones are disappearing. It's that's like the most fundamental thing, like calcium supplements are, like tons of people take [00:14:00] them.
And to date, there's still no study that proves that they're actually worth taking.
They don't decrease risk of bone fractures or any of the things that we take them for. we take them in the hope that it goes to the right parts of the body. And it rarely does. The missing piece stomach acid.
Weak stomach acid is a universal issue. It's why people under eat protein. It's why people often benefit from intermittent fasting, although I don't think that gets to the bottom of the issue. But if you've got weak stomach acid, you can't absorb nutrients in a manner that you can effectively get them into the tissues, or at least a lot of the nutrients, a lot of the key nutrients.
Calcium, Magnesium, B12, things like that.
Jeffrey Feldberg: Dr. Ma, let me ask you this. And again, you're going to tell me, hey, Jeffrey, you're way off base on that one. Oh, yeah, there's something to what you're saying there. So for starters, let me start to dispel some myths out there. I'm going to round up somewhat. There was a study that was done a few years back, it's probably even worse now than when it was done.
It's saying [00:15:00] 88%. So let's say that nine out of 10, look around you, nine out of 10 people around you either have some kind of metabolic disease, one or more. or one is just around the corner and they don't even know it. So that's not 10 people are healthy, 9 out of 10 people are unhealthy. And then the other thing I'm going to put out there, and again, you can agree or disagree, we have this myth, we have this belief, I can just pop a pill, like a vitamin or a supplement, and it's going to cure all my ailments.
Even though I would say that today, we still don't understand all of these substances and the nutrients that are in food that we can't even begin to possibly replicate in a pill. And if we can get it from Whole Foods, not the store Whole Foods, but the Whole Foods itself, that's so much better off than from a pill or some fancy supplement or heaven forbid a prescription drug, which is a whole other, that could be a whole other episode in and of itself.
But how am I doing there with those first two items that I put out there?
Dr. Matt Archer: sure there's a lot of people looking at trying to approximate ancestral [00:16:00] health, like Paleo diet, trying to approximate what people ate before we invented agriculture. I think that works really well when we have the digestion to be able to do that. A lot of people recognize part of ancestral health is that we used to walk as a means of transportation.
And now we don't. We drive the long trips and then we do lots of short trips or high intensity anaerobic workout or even things that are called aerobics, but really are still just an anaerobic workout. before we invented agriculture we certainly didn't eat anywhere near as much carbohydrate as we eat now.
Those are all pieces of the protocol they don't sound like revolutionary ideas, but when you combine them together, Sustained gentle aerobic exercise, low intensity exercise, like just walking 40 minutes, five or six days a week with a fairly low carbohydrate diet.
Most people find that's like a magic secret recipe and unlocks, a lot of energy and better sleep and a whole bunch of other things. But [00:17:00] a lot of people can't go there because the deficiencies that they have in the body will create various muscle weaknesses that create problems when they're walking or they don't have the energy or...
A variety of other things. So yeah, there's very fundamental things that most of us are missing.
Jeffrey Feldberg: And so let's leverage what some people call the 80 20 principle or Pareto's Law that says 80 percent of the issues or the symptoms or the problems are likely coming from the same 20 percent of the root causes. And so perhaps another way of asking that, when we look at your unexpected seven solutions that you so eloquently go through in your book, and truth be told, Dr.
Matt, each one of those seven areas, it could really be a podcast episode in and of itself, that's how much detail you get into. If you had to pick one area that moves the dial the most for us to get back to health, either we're stopping to feel a certain way because it's not good, or we're starting to feel a certain way because it's much better.
If we did this one thing, and I know every person's different, every [00:18:00] health history, every circumstance is different. Generally speaking, though, back of the envelope, if you had to pick one of your areas, one of your seven areas, which area would that be?
Dr. Matt Archer: Well, it's sort of, yeah it's a tricky one. I mean, the simplest thing that people can do on their own that makes the biggest difference. is that if a person will just walk 40 minutes a day, five or six days a week, I mean, the little old lady who walks every day often lives to a ripe old age and gets away with a terrible diet.
if you can just walk consistently, it is remarkable how much that accomplishes. But the biggest foundational causative issue, I believe, Is that everyone is zinc deficient which there's some studies in the Lancet that point to elevated CO2 interfering with the ability of plants to uptake zinc.
So I think that may be the main reason that, that everyone is deficient in zinc. It's an easy thing for me to confirm in the office and [00:19:00] anyway, so everyone is zinc deficient. We need zinc to make stomach acid. Once we have weak stomach acid, it's damn near impossible to absorb zinc, even from whole food sources.
If you don't have the acid to prepare those minerals for absorption and utilization the way that the body was designed to do you're not going to get those nutrients into the body. So I think supplementing with zinc is critical, but you have to boost the stomach acid at the same time with Badeen Hydrochloride or HCL.
It's essentially stomach acid in a pill. it's sort of the why lots of people think apple cider vinegar works a lot of miracles. it's a boost in the right direction. It's acid in the belly and that's a good thing.
Apple cider vinegar a nudge in that right direction.
this is all like the first piece of the protocol, is that we've got to first address weak [00:20:00] stomach acid, and at the same time, one of the greatest problems with weak stomach acid is that it allows pathogens to survive the stomach acid and make it into the intestine. Once they get there, they've got a good place to live with a constant food supply, and we don't have a very good internal mechanism of kicking them out.
And I don't think that antibiotics get the job. I haven't seen seen a pharmaceutical solution for that. Probiotics are a band aid solution that often helps the issue if you're someone who takes probiotics and says, oh, yeah, I definitely feel better when I take probiotics or I take eat fermented foods or things like that.
For me, that's confirmation that person has something living in the intestine that shouldn't be there. And you can boost and do everything you want to the microbiome and prebiotics and probiotics and all that stuff, but none of that will kick it out. You can actually kick it out of the gut with a three [00:21:00] week course of some special digestive enzymes that are meant to be taken away from food.
So that rather than helping you to digest your food, they digest out the thing that's living in the gut that shouldn't be there. And whether that's Candida that someone's had for 50 years or SIBO, we've done it with laboratory confirmed Giardia and weird stuff from the tropics and chronic Lyme disease and a whole bunch of other things.
And. When combined with the rest of the protocol, always see it work, never see that miss. And I think the gut microbiome issue is a whole lot simpler to solve than just about anybody realizes. And when you do it, it, it, changes everything. I mean, every chronic condition, all inflammation in the body it's, it's all linked to the gut microbiome.
But so far the solutions around the gut microbiome are inadequate. And it's really not that hard to strengthen stomach acid, clear intestinal infection. In the process of doing that, those [00:22:00] enzymes go to the liver and the gallbladder as well. They soften the contents of the liver and the gallbladder.
You accomplish a liver gallbladder cleanse. To a deeper, greater degree than any other protocol that I know of.
That one piece is super foundational. It's, I believe it's the cause of most back pain, whether it's low back pain or upper back pain. It's the primary piece underneath hormone imbalance because it's liver congestion that prevents us from clearing excess hormone and hormone like chemicals from the body, as well as.
Cholesterol regulation, blood pressure to some degree, a whole bunch of other things. That's why I can, you know, woman walks in, whole families who are like, oh, it just runs in my family, all the women have horrible periods, and for two days we can't do anything but take pain meds. And I just get to guarantee those people, and look, follow this protocol for eight weeks, you'll know beyond a shadow of a doubt that we can get you to the bottom of that.
Same thing with menopause. Who else gets to say [00:23:00] that? It's not that we're adding anything all that complicated. We don't use powerful herbs or weird, complicated substances. We're using foundational simple nutrients and some digestive enzymes and a little bit of stomach acid. I
Jeffrey Feldberg: And so what's coming out of here, it's really two big things. And again Dr. Matt, tell me, Jeffrey, you're on base, off base. Let me go back to the walking because it's not just the walking. I would add that timing is everything. And so walking your 30 minutes, 45 minutes, 60 minutes a day. That would be most beneficial if you did it right after a meal.
So you've finished eating and then you had some movement for 15, 20 minutes after each meal. To help the body get the digestion going and to absorb some of the nutrients and perhaps some of the sugars that we've had and keep the blood glucose levels down that when we're walking all these miraculous things, natural things in the body kick in because we're walking but it's right after a meal as opposed to waiting maybe a few hours after a meal or even before the meal.
Thoughts about [00:24:00] that?
Dr. Matt Archer: That's absolutely, that's another piece of my protocol, which is blood sugar stability. It's really the opposite of, intermittent fasting. And
You know, Lots of people benefit from intermittent fasting and with weak stomach acid and intestinal infection, it makes sense that intermittent fasting helps.
And so, you know, I can understand why it's such a popular technique, but if you strengthen stomach acid and clear intestinal infection, then you can eat protein, digest it much more easily. You can eat frequently and process it well, and you don't get inflamed after your meals. And then zinc is critical for cell division replication.
So the whole autophagy component that a lot of people are advocating intermittent fasting for you can just do better by effectively absorbing zinc and getting cortisol levels down and that's another piece. But anyway I tell people ideally eat a protein breakfast first thing in the morning, never have caffeine on an empty stomach, and [00:25:00] don't even like take a shower before you eat in the morning. you want to fuel the body before you start demanding activity of the body. If you get up and immediately go for a walk,
Jeffrey Feldberg: Sure.
Dr. Matt Archer: it's the adrenals that have to put a bunch of cortisol in the system to mobilize sugar from the tissues. So that you can, deliver on that demand on the body. If you get up and you have a cup of coffee on empty, it's a stimulant.
It tells the body to get fired up. You haven't put any fuel in there yet. So again, it's the adrenals that have to put cortisol in the system. We know that cortisol contributes to every condition we want no part of,
Jeffrey Feldberg: hmm.
Dr. Matt Archer: but most people are, either exercising on empty or drinking coffee on empty or eating, a smoothie or sugar for breakfast.
So protein first, and then I say, don't go more than three hours in the busy part of the day without protein. So wherever your exercise is. Yeah, [00:26:00] right after a meal is good, particularly if you have the stomach acid to really get that meal digesting and move it along but as long as you're done with your exercise by, no more than three hours after the previous meal, then you've got fuel in the body that you're running on.
And again, it's contrary to what a lot of people are saying, but As we put these pieces together, it becomes obvious to people as they, strengthen stomach acid and start eating more protein and get the digestion working right, that if they try and exercise on empty, they don't feel so good, and if they burst, they feel really good, and it's interesting that people can.
Work around that and that there's intermittent fasters who don't eat until after lunch and they do a massive workout and they feel great and all those things, but there are costs to that, that we get to identify and help people with.
Jeffrey Feldberg: And the other thing that's coming out as we're talking, and for our listeners, this may come as a surprise, this is not a one size fits all. In fact, I would say, and again, you can tell me, Jeffrey, you're on base or off base, [00:27:00] what may work for you, Dr. Matt, may not work for me and vice versa. And that we're dealing with a system.
It's not a silo. So earlier you were talking about the stomach and the gut and zinc and all these other issues that are there. And I'm sure for some of our listeners, it was, what are you talking about? This sounds so confusing. Just, tell me what pill I can take and life is better that it really doesn't work like that.
You have to look at the entire system that everything we do. It goes back to physics, for every action, there's going to be a reaction, same kind of thing in the body that unless we have someone like yourself, who can oversee what we're doing, give us the insights, you have the years, decades of practice, the gazillions of patients that you've worked with, okay, Jeffrey, we tried this.
And it should have gone like this, but it didn't. So let's try this because now based on what I'm seeing, of course, I'm making this up. I think we should be going down this path. And so for our listeners, one of the takeaways is this, you know, when it comes to your business, there are certain business KPIs.
that you're chasing after and you will go to the proper advisors to help [00:28:00] you with that. Perhaps for your health, if you're going to the gym, you'll have a coach and that fitness coach will help you with that. Well, now we're talking about a health coach to really walk us through from start to finish. So Dr.
Matt, let's talk about your process. Earlier you said it's about eight weeks, give or take, that you're going to be working with someone that you're able to sort through everything. And again, you can tell me if I'm on base or off base. I'm being a little bit facetious here. I suspect you're giving more than the five minutes I typically get at a traditional doctor with my annual physical.
Hi, Jeffrey, how you are? Your tests look great, or I'm concerned about this. Here, take this pill and you should be good to go. I'll see you next year. I suspect you're doing a little bit more than that or a lot more than that. So what's your process like over that eight weeks? And I'm thinking of, listen, I'm busy.
I'm running the business. I have some pressure on me, which is probably an issue. But I don't have a lot of time and whatever time I do have, if I'm spending that with you, Dr. Matt, I'm not doing something else. I really want to maximize my return on investment for my health, for my business, for everything else.
So what's [00:29:00] going on? I show up today, Dr. Matt, as a patient and it's really a clean slate. We haven't worked together before. What can I expect? What would you be walking me through?
Dr. Matt Archer: Right. So, Yeah, the amount of time that I spend in the office explaining to people these concepts is, it's a big deal it's definitely a different approach than what most people are doing. And the fact that I'm like, yeah, I don't think probiotics are the solution.
I don't think intermittent fasting is the solution. I don't think that. Antibiotics are the cause of all problems and, there are just, there's fairly simple solutions. And I say simple, but putting them all together, it is complicated and it takes a lot of work from the individual. So, You know, If somebody only has occasional issues and they're no big deal and they always get better after a couple days, they're usually not a great candidate for care with me unless they're someone who is really interested in optimal performance, [00:30:00] in getting stronger and getting faster.
And having more energy, or sleeping better, or all those kinds of things. And we do great with those people. I've worked with athletes who went from being mediocre athletes to high ranked and people who won gold medals in the Sochi Paralympics and things like that. So typical first visit, I spend like an hour and a half with people.
Now that's a lot of time to spend. And, I'm talking so much of the time, it's like, how can anybody really retain all that information? But my feeling is I'm up for, full disclosure and like, here's everything you can expect, and I'm not going to surprise you with anything.
And if this doesn't look like a good idea to you, then great, choose something else. So I feel like being upfront and honest about what all it's going to take is a good thing. But then I also say, look. You don't have to do it all overnight. This is just where we're headed. And if we can put this together over a, series of weeks, [00:31:00] then we know we can get you those results.
first visit, maybe an hour and a half, second visit, usually about 40 minutes. That's a week or a little less later. And then usually 20 minute visits, another three to six visits over the course of. The next six weeks. And now, could we do it with less time? Absolutely. If someone was just like saying, look, I don't need to know why, just tell me what to do and I'll do it.
Oh, that'd be great. Then we could, do that in significantly less time. But most people really want to understand the why, because they're attached to whatever it is they're already doing,
Jeffrey Feldberg: Charm.
Dr. Matt Archer: They know it helps them compensate for what their, internal issues are,
Jeffrey Feldberg: and suspect on the flip side of that, just to put this in perspective for our listeners, Dr. Matt, even if we spent the full time and you're explaining everything because between the placebo effect or at least understanding what's going on often leads to better outcomes. For our listeners, I would ask you this, how [00:32:00] much time are you taking out for an emergency room visit?
Or do you even have the time? Heaven forbid something happens and you have your final exit because you didn't spend the time up front. Or are you having that extra cup of coffee, maybe your two or three, because you just feel so lousy and you're out of energy? I mean, how much time are you wasting or how much time are you wasting going from the pharmacy to pick up all the meds and the prescriptions or from doctor to doctor?
So I suspect even the extra time with you, Dr. Matt, it's a huge ROI because you're taking us back. To really the basics here, back to equilibrium, the natural equilibrium with our body, using what we have in the whole foods that we're going to be having, using our own body processes, if possible, removing perhaps prescription medications and getting us back to a healthier, more balanced kind of life.
How am I doing with that?
Dr. Matt Archer: Yeah, it's good. Yes it takes some time up front. It seems like a lot to process at the very [00:33:00] beginning, but, part of my problem is that it works so well, people really get well, and people with really complicated conditions. We're done after a few visits and they're not coming back to see me except maybe occasionally for a checkup.
Jeffrey Feldberg: And Dr. Matt, let me put a pause right there. I mean, for our listeners out there, have you ever heard of a doctor firing him or herself after a because it works so well? Well, maybe this is the first one, but what a business model. It's not a great business model for you, but you're doing it.
You're doing it for the benefit of the patient. I mean, isn't that where we should really all be there? Hey. I don't want to have to see a doctor on a regular basis because it means I'm healthy and it means I'm not feeling sick or all these other complications are coming up. It's actually working what I've been doing.
What a great outcome.
Dr. Matt Archer: I mean, people just seem to be so resigned to Explaining away their symptoms, they're like, oh, well, you know, I'm just aging and I've lived a really active [00:34:00] lifestyle And it's just a bunch of injuries that are never gonna heal and you know all the time people are like, oh Well, I you helped my wife and you know But she was in a car accident and she had to recover from all these terrible things and I just work hard And I just figured all these aches and pains are just normal as I age And it's no we actually can heal, I broke a bone in my wrist and, six or seven years later, it was looking like it was going to limit my ability to work with my hands.
And then I put these pieces together and the pain went away, like arthritis that had been there for, six or seven years, at least. Went away. and we see that, we work with people who've got injuries. They're like, oh, it's been this way for 50 years. You're never going to change it, doc.
And I say, well, we always do. So why don't we just give it a try?
Jeffrey Feldberg: Yeah, you know what, it's a, I call it the social programming, and there's other names for it. And I was just speaking with a family member the other day, and they're describing how lousy they felt, and then they ended it, but that's normal, that's what [00:35:00] happens as you get older. And I stopped them mid sentence and said, actually, no, that isn't normal, and that isn't healthy, and that's not how it's supposed to be.
But sadly, Dr. Matt, it seems like it's just the society that we live in. And the irony is that the U. S., dollar for dollar, person for person, we spend the most amount of money on healthcare, yet as compared to other nations, we're not number one in terms of being the healthiest. We're way down on the list, so it's not adding up. Dr. Matt, let me ask you this because you know what, we could go down so many different areas and you've been very generous in sharing some of your insights. We're starting to bump up again sometime. I'm going to ask you a tough question and it's almost like asking, pick your favorite child, but let me ask this question for you before we go into wrap up mode.
If a listener could take one action item today, because out of every episode, our goal for the listener is before they do that next email, that meeting, that call, before they go into the next activity, they do one thing right on the. Scene of this episode. So we finish before they do the next thing.
They're going to do one action that [00:36:00] could really make a difference for their health. What would you recommend?
Dr. Matt Archer: It's funny. I want to answer that in a different way, which is. What's the one thing that they could do that, that could affect the most people possible?
The kind of studies that we could run with this protocol, like if I had 10 people come into my office who were all suffering from migraines and two months later they were all migraine free, we had, 10 people or 20 people with chronic neck pain or back pain.
If someone could help me, fund a study, put together some researchers and we could do that, I mean, we could easily affect millions of people quickly, because if we proved how consistently effective this is. I think, a lot of people would be like, okay, sign me up let's go.
And then we could train, thousands of other people to do this. And so that's how we could really pay it forward. That's how we could really affect the planet.
So that's where we're going. I don't know if we get to go there [00:37:00] tomorrow or if it's going to take another year or two or whatever.
But. that's where I see this going. As far as our own health, I mean, there are some pieces that are just so simple, if you don't drink coffee on an empty stomach, and you eat protein for breakfast, and you don't go more than three hours in the day without protein, then you get your blood sugar really stable.
And that's the available energy for every cell in your body. People talk about cellular healing and all these groovy ideas, and that's great. But. We need energy in every cell in our body, and we need it to be consistent, and we don't need a bunch of cortisol, which is what we run on when we don't fuel the body.
We need to move the body. We walk for millions of years. Walk. everyone's stewing in sugar. We know that diabetes and pancreatic cancer are skyrocketing. Most people crave sugar because of the bug that's in their gut that feeds on the stuff. So clearing intestinal infection it is a great way to help people reduce sugar if they said, oh, yeah, I've tried, but I can't do it.
It's usually the bug in the gut. So [00:38:00] guess I don't have a great, simple, one liner for you on that one, Jeffrey, but there's a lot of good things to do and they're all lined out in my book. And they're broken down into seven main pieces.
Jeffrey Feldberg: And maybe that's a one liner, Dr. Matt, get the book
Dr. Matt Archer: Without health, nothing works. That's the point you made. How can you be successful in your business if, you're not sleeping well, or you've got headaches, or migraines, or low energy, or whatever it is?
Jeffrey Feldberg: Exactly. So get the book. And again, that's all in the show notes. It'll be a point and click. And so with that, Dr. Matt, let's go into wrap up mode. And I know I say this on every episode. It really is a privilege and an honor for me. It's become a tradition here in the Deep Wealth Podcast where I have, again, the privilege and the honor to ask every guest this question.
So let me lay out the question for you. It's a fun one. When you think of the movie, Back to the Future, you have that magical DeLorean car that will take you to any point in time. So imagine now, Dr. Matt, it's tomorrow morning and here's the fun part. You look outside your window. Not only is the DeLorean car curbside, the door is open, it's waiting for you to hop on in, which you do.
And you're now going back to any point in [00:39:00] your life, Dr. Matt, as a young child, a teenager, whatever point in time it would be. What would you tell your younger self in terms of life wisdom or life hmm.
Dr. Matt Archer: yeah, that's a tricky one. I wish I would've had all of these pieces when I was a kid, like I got sick constantly as a kid, it was a drag. I athletic performance was definitely interfered with because of all the issues I had growing. I mean, I grew, my skeleton is not at all straight because of the conditions I grew under so, I love it when I get to be that person for a family with growing children or people before they get pregnant so that, like, my kids they almost never get sick, they never go to any other doctors, they deal with no health issues, to grow up that way.
it's so beautiful to see with my kids that I'm just sorry I didn't have that back then. But again, [00:40:00] a simple answer for me back then? I don't really have it, it's it's a complicated piece that I, I wish everybody had a way to accept, to access the health. That people had only, a few generations ago zinc deficiency wasn't the issue that it is now and people seem to know the importance of a good breakfast when they were, doing manual labor as, as work so a lot of that has changed.
So, again, I'm sorry, I don't have the good simple answer but it's, Beautiful. And we get to help kids to have that kind of health starting when they're young and then they know what, that is and how to maintain it.
Jeffrey Feldberg: Well, no pun intended, one food for thought, Dr. Matt. Really what you're doing, you're allowing, you're enabling people to have their health and for them to make their health as their first wealth. Because that's where it starts. And without the health, nothing else really matters at that point. All the zeros in the bank mean nothing.
We can't enjoy it. We're not feeling so well. And it's a powerful message for the audience. And [00:41:00] before we wrap things up again, it'll all be in the show notes. If a listener, if they have a question, they want to reach out to you. They want to go through your system, go through those eight weeks to go from where they are now feeling lousy to feeling so much better, where's the best place that someone can find you online?
Dr. Matt Archer: So my, my website is archerchiropractic. com. there's also a website for the book. I do work with people remotely a combination of starting remotely with people and then working in person works really well. So yeah, archerychiropractic. com the place to find me. And I practice in Nevada City, California, which means we're, between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe.
So not an unreasonable trip from Reno or the Bay Area. I have patients come from all over.
Jeffrey Feldberg: Terrific. And again, that'll all be in the show notes for our listeners. Well, Dr. Matt, it's official. Congratulations. This is a wrap. And as we love to say here at Deep Wealth, may you continue to thrive and prosper while remaining healthy and safe. Thank you so much.
Dr. Matt Archer: Thank you, Jeffrey.
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