494 Dr. Fawad Mian

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Introduction to Healing Beyond Medication

Jeffrey Feldberg: What if healing wasn't just about getting by, but about waking up each day with clarity, energy and hope. 

Meet Dr. Farwad Mian: A Pioneer in Neurology and Regenerative Medicine

Jeffrey Feldberg: Dr. Farwad Mian is the rare kind of physician who blends cutting edge neurology with regenerative medicine, functional health, and an insistence that no one should be told their pain is just how it is.

With years of experience treating neurological sleep movement and pain disorders, he's built a clinic that is more than diagnosed as he listens, innovates, and often offers alternatives to surgery or lifelong medication. He is board certified in neurology, clinical neurophysiology, and sleep medicine.

He was trained in rigorous neurology residencies and fellowships, and now leads a practice that combines traditional treatments with non-traditional, non-insurance covered therapies, including prolotherapy, platelet rich plasma, and others.

Dr. Mian's Unique Approach to Medicine

Jeffrey Feldberg: What sets Dr. Mian apart isn't just his credentials, it's his personal belief in treating the [00:01:00] whole person, making medicine human again and refusing to accept limitations as a final word. This is a conversation about transformation at the intersection of science and possibility where medicine becomes more than just pills and protocols and starts to become a partnership and insight and a source of hope.

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Welcome to the Deep Wealth Podcast

Jeffrey Feldberg: Deep Wealth Nation welcome to another episode of the Deep Wealth Podcast. Well, Deep Wealth Nation. You know our tagline here is helping you extract both your business and personal Deep Wealth, pun intended. So let me ask you this morning, Deep Wealth Nation. How was it for you when you woke up? Did you have brain fog?

Did you get out of bed? Did you lack energy? Do you not have that spring in your step? Do you [00:05:00] have some ailments that are bothering you? Well, got news for you if you're focusing on that, you're not focusing on your business and the two go hand in hand. That's what we're gonna be speaking about today. We have a very special guest in the House of Deep Wealth.

Dr. Mian, welcome to the Deep Wealth Podcast. It's an absolute pleasure to have you with us. You're in some really exciting and new areas and I don't think Deep Wealth Nation has necessarily heard about, wanna hear all about that. But before we do, what's your story, Dr. What got you from where you were to where you are today?

Dr. Mian's Personal Journey with Pain and Healing

Dr. Fawad Mian: Well, first let me, I just wanna say thank you for having me on the show today. I deeply appreciate that. Glad to hear all the listeners out there. But what kind of, what got me into a lot of the stuff that I'm doing was stumbling through my own issues just like everybody else. So originally, you know, I started out as a neurologist, which I still do.

But as time was going on, I started seeing people have multiple issues. And one of those issues was pain for instance. People that would have chronic pain issues and they would've injuries and there would be orthopedic doctors sending patients to me. Pain doctors sending [00:06:00] patients to me ultimately.

And they would always say something like, sounds more neurological to me because they don't know what's going on. And I would scratch my head and look back at these patients or what I'm trying to figure out why they think these things were neurological or why they were told us. At the same time, what was also happening with me is that I ended up with just outta the blue.

I had a shoulder injury when I was lifting some weights. Just like, you know, everybody else who wants to be active and then their personal life and then their business or whatnot. You wanna stay in shape so you can actually help yourself. Get through your business and being able to handle your business.

But I injured myself doing something called shoulder shrugs, injured a small joint in the front of my shoulder called the AC joint, and I was in terrible pain. And so I did what everybody else does. I went to the orthopedic doctor and the orthopedic doctor. One of the first things it says, well, maybe we can get a surgery out of this.

Maybe you have something called a slap tear, which is a fancy way of saying some cartilage tear in the shoulder. It's not exactly the first thing that I wanted to hear, like going to the orthopedic doctor. But it's very common to hear that. Thankfully had the scan, [00:07:00] nothing was torn, but had bad arthritis there.

I had a couple of steroid injections, which I regretted later on, but it actually helped a little bit, maybe. I was still having a lot of pain. I couldn't put my arm above my head. I couldn't it was hard to put a jacket on by putting the arm behind my back too as well. It was hard to sleep on.

I couldn't exercise, which to me, it was an important thing for me 'cause it's always been something I do and I always feel good doing it. So it made me quite miserable. At the same time while all this was happening, I started ending up with a foot issue one day. I had, lived in New York City, did training over there, so I did a lot of walking and I had a little bit of plantar fascitis, which is some irritation with tissue on the bottom of the foot, but that went away.

Then one day after I had moved to the New Jersey area, I was just walking to the front of where I was, and all of a sudden my foot started hurting and I thought maybe it's just a bad shoe. And I was like, man, this is a really bad shoe. I shouldn't have gotten this shoe. And you know, and I changed the shoe.

It didn't change anything and I was limping around and that lasted good long time. And I did what other people would do. I went to the foot doctor. The foot doctor essentially told me, [00:08:00] well, okay, you have some plantar fish, ice, let's do some steroids. 'cause that's what you do. Get some nice orthotics, which are.

Actually more painful than what I thought they would be. They did some x-rays and I had gotten a couple rounds of steroid injections in my foot, and at that time, by the third injection, I was okay. Maybe that third time was a charm. 'cause I only have a little bit of pain now. So I'm like, okay, fantastic.

Steroids finally kicked in after three times. So now I, I decided I was gonna go run on the treadmill and I started running on the treadmill. And then all of a sudden my Achilles started hurting, which is a tissue on the back of your heel. And then also the inside of my ankle started hurting. So, went from one problem to the other.

Had a lot of pain in those areas and I went back to the foot doctor and then he did some other treatments and don't put steroids in the tendon, which thank God he didn't do, which I wouldn't do in any tendon of any sort 'cause that can lead to an issue. But he wasn't getting any better. My shoulder was bothering me.

Then what started happening is because I was walking awkwardly with what I was having, then my knee started going, I had an ACL repair in [00:09:00] 2001 and I started having pain again and I was limping around. I mean, I felt like I was a mass unit at that point. And I wasn't even 40 at that point. I was gonna leave my late thirties.

And I felt pretty debilitated and it was hard to function. I would take, they would gimme pain medications that would gimme things like brain fog and whatnot. I was in misery. And then inevitably the answer for a lot of these doctors that I went to was, well, let's do surgery, for AC joint, let's chop off part of the bone that it would leave pressure on the tendon on the bottom for your foot issue.

Let's. Chop off part of the bone in the back of your heel, reattach the tendon for the knee. The ACL that was theoretically repaired was not repaired correctly, probably never took, wasn't put in the right place after getting opinions from other people. And then the orthopedic surgeon, without even looking at the reports let's just scope your knee and see what we see there.

So at that point, you know, after having him gone through a surgery that already failed and had multiple pain issues, I had was at a crossroads in terms of what I needed to do. And I thought to myself, I don't want surgery anymore. I've had plenty of surgeries, some of which I haven't even [00:10:00] mentioned, but I've had plenty of steroid injections too as well.

This isn't how I wanna live my life. I'm not even 40 just yet, and I'm well past that at this point. 

Discovering Alternative Treatments

Dr. Fawad Mian: But I had to find other solutions and I stumbled on something called prolotherapy and platelet-rich plasma many years ago. Probably about 13, 14 years ago before it was a little bit more well known and I know athletes were getting it at the time.

And I went to go get training and had some injections and that started helping. Eventually I had to do a lot of PRP on my own, on my Achilles to undo all the injuries that I had and also the plantar fascia that healed. I can run now on the treadmill. Fortunately I didn't need to get anything chopped off also for my collarbone, and that's still here thankfully.

But I did PRP into my joint on myself as well. That helped undo that. And then in terms of my knee, we had to do some treatments on my knee that were surrounding the structures. Obviously I can't make an ACL anymore, but my knee is stable enough where I can run and do things like that. Obviously, I'm not gonna do any cutting movements that can actually.

Probably caused more issues. And obviously I'm not a sprained chicken [00:11:00] anymore a little bit older. So I gotta be a little bit careful about some of the stuff that I do. And so, I started implementing this with my patients many years ago and started seeing the positive changes that I had in them as well with the interpret treatments that we're doing.

And now we've also added in autologous stem cell therapies, which come from your own body. But around that time, instead of medications, I also adopted a lot of holistic treatments too, as well, with things with supplements and looking at things from the outside and doing some more functional medicine related things.

I know they call it more biohacking and functional medicine but I was finding my way through a lot of this, not only for myself, but for my patients over time. So when patients actually come to me, well, they're actually looking for a lot of alternative treatments because. They don't wanna be on prescription medications ultimately, or they wanna have alternative treatments for the pain that they've had too as well.

And so we've been very fortunate that it's done a great job for a lot of people over the years. It's something where I've actually treated my own family members too, as well even with these injections. And then they've helped tremendously too as [00:12:00] well. And so as time has evolved too as well, I keep trying to find different ways of how we can try to make somebody better without necessarily throwing a pill at them, which may potentially make them sick.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Wow. Terrific story and journey. And by the way, deep nation, everything that we're talking about today, this is not medical advice. It's simply Dr. Me and myself sharing some stories and some insights. Always check with your medical professional before you do anything. 

The Philosophy Behind Regenerative and Functional Medicine

Jeffrey Feldberg: But let me ask you this, Dr. Mian, and as you're going through that, you have all the credentials after your name, you started in neurology and you started doing some cutting edge neurology.

And today we'll hear things that are becoming more popular in the headlines. Things like regenerative medicine or functional health. So for someone who's hearing that, yeah, I've heard about that, I don't really know what that means. What would you want them to know about regenerative health or functional medicine?

What does that really mean?

Dr. Fawad Mian: So in terms of regenerative medicine, obviously it's a very loose, catchall phrase. But the idea behind all of these injections is trying to help heal the areas of damage, heal the areas of tissue ideally, even though we can't really say this with 100%, but. When we [00:13:00] do these kinds of treatments into things like cartilage, things in the bone and tendons, they look better radiographically or even on ultrasound too as well.

Even though I think there's more new research that needs to go into, in, into that, ultimately there have been some colleagues that actually been able to have even regenerate a CS that were. Mostly torn too as well by doing things like stem cell therapies. I'm well beyond that because I found out everything on the late side.

In terms of functional medicine I think the best way to describe that is really trying to dig deep into, what's causing your problem. And so it's not just the superficial stuff that's typically done in a medical office because, we're bound by what the insurance allows us to do. There's certain tests that they won't allow us to do. And, if you go for one problem with one doctor, you may have to be sent to 10 other different doctors for.

Different body parts or different health systems. With the functional medicine, it tries to integrate all of that together by looking at things deeply. So that's how I look at it in terms of what the name is.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Okay, [00:14:00] and this is really out there, and as you mentioned, some of the things that you're doing aren't even gonna be covered. Insurance. And we'll get to that in a moment. But your approach, and again, what I'm about to say, this is not a judgment or a slight against doctors or the medical establishment. I know they're doing the best that they can with what they've been given to, to work with.

You're different though, because I know for most people, when they go to the doctor, they'll see the doctor once a year, they'll have their yearly physical. If they spend seven minutes, 10 minutes with a doctor, that'll be a lot. And then out the door they go. And that'd be like me. Having a business, I'm seeing my accountants for seven minutes.

Okay, Jeffrey, here's what you need to know. I'll see you this time next year. Well, this is our health. That simply isn't gonna help on the health side, and that's not gonna help on the business side. And so you're looking at the whole person, not in silos. Okay. Jeffrey, let's just look at, in your case, you're talking earlier with your knee or your tendon or this or that.

Let's look at the whole body here. And I know part of your background's also with sleep medicine in addition to the neurophysiology. So you're looking at the [00:15:00] whole person and how everything is interconnected. Can you walk us through why we should be looking for that in our personal care, in our doctors, of not just a silo effect and the benefit of the whole person?

I mean, on paper, it sounds easy enough. It seems fairly self-explanatory. Yet in reality, in practice, that's usually not the case.

Dr. Fawad Mian: Yeah. 

Challenges with Traditional Healthcare

Dr. Fawad Mian: I will harp on the insurance companies 'cause they unfortunately dictate too much in terms of what we do or just, influenced by the insurance or whatnot. But the reason why we, really should be able to look at things more holistically is because if you think about it, how much money is being spent for all the drugs and the medications that you're on for different reasons that can make you sick. So potentially you're making somebody sick. The cost can be high, your insurance premiums are high in general, your out-of-pocket max, your co-insurance and all that stuff.

That gets nebulous to the average person, but we see like on a daily basis there, there's a high cost to that. A medication certainly can make you sick. Have surgeries that are necessary too as [00:16:00] well, because you're missing something. You're not looking at a key thing. I just give you an example of like just something that would be maybe a bit easier to understand to the lay person.

So for instance, we'll see a lot of people that have headaches and one of the things I always tell people you know about headaches is that the head is just the victim and all of this, it's brought really the true cause of everything that's going on. It's not the head itself, it's everything else, whether it's a.

Chronic neck issue, hormone issue some underlying infection. Poor stress, poor sleep, poor diet gut issues and the beat goes on with all that. There's so, so many different things. Even sleep too as well. There's so many different things that could be affecting that and we try to look at all of that because ultimately if we can solve the underlying issue or knock out bits and pieces of it, it would, wouldn't necessitate being on a prescription medication that could make you sick or something that's costly.

Or something you can't afford. And so for instance, even today I just had a patient where there was a certain treatment that this individual had to have and the insurance just keeps denying it, just trying to find something else that won't help this person. This is, but we're stuck in the rut of [00:17:00] the insurance ultimately.

And I kind of wish. Things weren't the way that they are, but the insurance also approves things that a lot of times would end up being more noxious to the person, more harmful to the person versus something that doesn't, and that's, I think, more of a pure numbers game for the insurance companies.

I mean, they, they all do quite well in general. But I think we really need to look at things more deeply, and that's why you're seeing a lot of more regenerative medicine people popping up. That's why you're starting to see more functional medicine popping up to the point that even Tony Robbins gets involved and, you know, you have Mark Hyman all these people that, that are doing all these things because people want alternatives.

So you're seeing a lot of people screaming for that in general.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Yeah, it's interesting and for someone in Deep Wealth Nation who's hearing us talk, and they're probably saying to themselves, well, Dr. Mian, this sounds great. I've just known my doctor for decades now. I know him or her and they know me, and life is grand. I mean, come on. How bad could it be? So for someone who.

From the outside looking in is thinking that we're gonna now roll back the curtains, not that the sky is falling and we're [00:18:00] gonna be all doom and gloom, but realistically speaking, when we roll back the curtain, before you went down this path, what were the pressures that you were facing when dealing with patients that had you at one point say, Hey, you know what?

I'm gonna put a stop to that. I'm gonna go in a different direction. Even if insurance doesn't cover it, I'll figure out a way with the patients that it'll make sense for them to wanna be able to do it. I'm just gonna be different out there than what most people are getting with their quote-unquote.

Healthcare what some people are now calling sick care, so I would love to hear your thoughts on that.

Dr. Fawad Mian: Yeah, I mean, I mean, that's exactly what I was saying. I felt like I was just doing sick care. I didn't feel like I was, even though we still have patients that still want just the traditional medical route, I didn't feel like what I was doing was good enough for them. I knew it wasn't good enough for me.

I felt that there were better ways to not make them sick. I found better ways that would be more cost effective to them. And so I, I just found it just a better option overall, especially with all the stuff that I went through. And I think, everybody goes through their journeys in life with different things.

Even before the show. We just talked briefly about things. you know, Everybody has to go through that journey and see [00:19:00] the light on the other end of it. And as you mentioned, the curtains go back and you really see what's happening. And you see that happen for yourself, and you can also see that happen for other individuals.

And so as as time went along, even with my own injuries and other things that were affecting me, where I did have brain fog and I had other issues too as well, I had to find better solutions than what were out there because there's not just always like a pill out there as a solution for everything, unfortunately.

And that's what traditional medicine unfortunately has become. It's either a pill or a surgery, unfortunately.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so when it comes to your area of specialty, what your focus is on, from a very high level. When would I want to be picking up the phone and say, okay, Dr. Mian heard you on the Deep Wealth Podcast. I'm going through exactly A, B, and C, what you mentioned. Let's have a conversation. Let's talk. What would that be

Dr. Fawad Mian: I would say in general, if you've been suffering through something or injury or like a bad knee, bad shoulder, bad neck, and it's been going on past a couple of weeks, I think that's a great time to start having a conversation. If things are lingering on beyond that, it's [00:20:00] unlikely to heal very well on its own.

There are also cases I would tell people, look, you may feel not so well for these few, couple of weeks or a month or two, but then you get better and you're like, okay, I'm good. I can think I'm good. Alright, I'll see you later, two or three months, roll by and then I'll listen. Oh, it's bothering me again.

It's killing me. That's kind of what I mean. And so that's the time to have a conversation. So for me it's always about, how can we be a little bit proactive so that you don't relapse back to where you are, especially if say in your neck or your spine, there's a little bit of instability or on your shoulder or whatnot.

And so we kind of have that conversation. Look, there's that traditional medical route x-rays are hit and miss in terms of what we do in general, because it doesn't always show the full picture, but maybe you might need to have an MRI to take a look at things in more deeper detail.

Maybe also an ultrasound, say if it was. Just take an instance for like a knee and that would give us better detail and better information, and then we can determine, hey, look, I definitely wouldn't be putting steroids inside that joint because steroids have proven that actually they destroy the cartilage, they destroy bone, and they actually start tearing up tissue as well [00:21:00] if you're using it more frequently.

And that wouldn't be the best long-term solution because. In the case of the knee, that's gonna lead you more to a knee replacement, but also increase your risk of mortality. Ultimately even now in the research studies that are coming out with that. So I'll tell 'em, look, maybe we need to do some supplements, maybe some physical therapy.

Maybe you might be, depending on how bad your knee is or where your knee is at and where you're at with all of this, maybe a regenerative treatment now because if you did it now, you may be able to preserve your joint for a very long period of time to the point where you don't need to have a surgery.

You don't need to be debilitated. I mean, having, going through a surgery, having gone through different ones you don't feel well afterwards. And the recovery sometimes can be quite long. And the older you are, if you do have a surgery, say for instance, the idea of, uncle Joe doing the surgery before, you know beforehand in terms of how they are versus afterwards, that person may not even be the same.

We do see neurological changes in people who do undergo surgery afterwards, and although It doesn't happen all the time. We do. I do see it enough frequently and I'm like, well, do you want to undertake the risk of even having the [00:22:00] surgery for something like that? And the surgery, just because you have a surgery does not mean that everything is gonna be fine afterwards.

It wasn't fine for me. It wasn't fine for a lot of patients that I've had over the years too as well. So the surgery is not the be all, end all of this. And that's why I always think, well, let's preserve what we have first.

Jeffrey Feldberg: That's so interesting of what's there and so fact or fiction, and I know the questions we're gonna ask, you'd be completely right to say, well, Jeffrey, it really depends on the person. It's different everyone's health journey. It's never two that are the same. But generally speaking, so many people that I speak to forget even doctors.

Debunking Myths About Aging and Pain

Jeffrey Feldberg: Well, Jeffrey, yeah, of course you're feeling that because as everyone ages, they get older and that's, and I'm using the air quotes normal. It's normal that you wake up with that pain and of course you're gonna be on medications for the rest of your life. That's just how it goes. That's how it is. Thank goodness we have that.

We didn't have that a hundred years ago. So be grateful that you have that and just live with it. So for that kind of narrative or something similar to that, what would you say to that?

Dr. Fawad Mian: No. You don't have to live that way. It's just the narrative You've been fed [00:23:00] and everybody expects it. Oh, let me, don't bust a hammy while I'm. Running or something like that. There are people who are older, you know, and people have had patients in their eighties, kite surfing. So it's not like this has to stop you.

It's just more of a mentality thing. And then if you fed that narrative over and over again mentally, you're like, okay, well this is how it is, so I don't need to do anything. Just keep going and just see what happens. And I think ultimately that ends up being more detrimental to you overall health versus being proactive about it.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so I'll come to you and you'll take me through the regenerative medicine, the functional medicine. 

The Journey to Personalized Healing

Jeffrey Feldberg: What you've honed in, what you've customized for you over years of practice. Also, quite open a little bit of trial and error with yourself before you're putting it out there with your patient base, but now you have a community, you're a patient base that you're going through that and we can talk about what led to it.

And oftentimes, while I've gotta see you now because what led to it, I can't necessarily reverse on my own. But once you've worked your magic and I'm coming out and I'm now on a healing path [00:24:00] to feel better, to get back to probably something that I forgot what it feels like to wake up, Hey, I can move. I don't have the pains.

I have that flexibility and I can do all those wonderful things that I thought I couldn't do before. What's standing in a way of keeping healthy. So after I see you, okay, Jeffrey, have a great life. I hope you don't have to see me again. Terrible for a business model. That's one of your outcomes though.

Dr. Fawad Mian: True.

Jeffrey Feldberg: What do I need to be doing that's gonna keep me outta the office because I'm now benefiting from what you're able to do and I'm keeping my body in the best possible shape and health and vibrancy.

Dr. Fawad Mian: Yeah. 

Maintaining Health Post-Treatment

Dr. Fawad Mian: So I mean, afterwards I always tell people, look, we gotta be the best version of ourselves. So what we do with the injections is only one piece of it. What you do afterwards is a lot up to you ultimately. So you know, if you start adopting more of a healthy lifestyle where you are getting more routine exercises, you're working on some of the muscle imbalances, say that.

Cause your issue. So I'm just using a knee or a shoulder as an example or whatnot, able to work on those things. Then ultimately [00:25:00] those treatments we're gonna do, those things are gonna last a very long time. And there are plenty of people that don't come back because they're better. They don't have to.

That pain point is not there anymore. 

The Role of Diet and Lifestyle

Dr. Fawad Mian: We also gotta look at, what we consume on a daily basis too as well. Are we eating things that are processed foods. are we consuming lots of sugar too as well?

Those things can be inflammatory to the body, obviously and cause more aches and pains that we don't know about. And so eliminating those basic things, gluten and dairy, say for instance, again, as I'm, you mentioned in the beginning, I would always check with your doctor to deepa and dig a little more deep in terms of things with the health, the diet and the supplements or whatnot.

But sometimes eliminating these common basic things can certainly be helpful too, as well. I think sleep is also really important too. Making sure you get adequate rest. We're in a lifestyle that's 24 7 constant emails text messaging. Back in the day when we were growing up, it was, the telephone and the answering machine that was right next to it.

And then you just hit play when you listen to the message, but nobody was constantly message you about things as well. So, minimizing the [00:26:00] stress too as well. That's also we're gonna be really important. And then just from a mindset point of view, in terms of. Things like practicing gratitude are important to keep the mindset positive too as well.

And then a lot of that's reinforced from your lifestyle. I think all those things are really important in a very basic way. So this is very superficial with everything, but I think all those things are really, ultimately important so that you do stay healthy. You don't relapse to the back to the way that you were or to the injuries that you were.

It always encouraged people Also, after these treatments is to start working towards the things that you normally love doing, whether. That's, playing with your grandkids. Sometimes like kneeling down on the ground. Sometimes that's hard for people. For some people it's just going down, up and down the stairs.

I mean, being able to do that pain-free can be monumental for somebody. For others it can be, hey, playing pickleball again, or, throwing a football with their kids or baseball with their kids. Always encourage people to do more activity. 'cause ultimately the more active you are, ideally the better off you're gonna feel.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And at the risk of simplifying, but not to confuse simple [00:27:00] with simplicity, really what I'm hearing you say are some of the basics. Get a good night of sleep where you're not glued to your phone or the computer you're actually in darkness. Get a good if you can, solid eight hour sleep if possible.

Continuous sleep. Watch what you eat. Food is medicine, and if you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't be eating it if it's on the ingredient list. Then something as simple perhaps as even walking, it doesn't have to be hours and hours in the gym, but just some movement, getting some exercise, taking care of ourselves at a very high level or some of the things that you're sharing.

Future of Regenerative Medicine

Jeffrey Feldberg: And as we're talking about this with what you've been able to do, let's look back five years that let's look forward five years. So if you look back at the past five years from what you've learned, what you're now able to heal, and I use that word very deliberately and intentionally. What's been a surprise for you as you look back in the past five years of what's changed for the better with what you're doing for your patient base that perhaps 10 years ago you would've thought, hey, not even possible.

Can't do it.

Dr. Fawad Mian: I mean, just some of the, even the injuries that we've looked at, especially [00:28:00] when they've been told by the surgeons, Hey, you need surgery, and we're able to get them out of them.

Bad shoulders, bad knees. That's been remarkable. Sometimes even I'm just, like I mentioned, I'm very surprised at sometimes how well they're doing.

Because I think inevitably for some people, we're we're staving off things for a little bit of time, but I have people who've done incredibly well. That's one thing. I think the other thing, which I think is also in the forefront too as well, is now that it's, there's a move towards, for instance, for PRP looking at dosage as well.

So that's something that we're gonna be implementing too, because we're gonna try to find a little bit more of a standardized way of doing everything that we're doing, and then measure that through data registries, which. There's at least at least one that can be utilized. There are some smaller ones too, as well to really help hone in on, on the data.

And then sometimes it's a combination of things like. PRP and autologous stem cell therapies, which have also been quite helpful too as well. I think as time goes along, there are gonna be other therapies which are not at least not done in the US or whatnot. They're done overseas, whether IV stem cell therapies, we're looking to see how [00:29:00] well that's really gonna be with the localized injections there.

I think the other thing also that's kind of out there that we don't. Talk a ton about, or whatnot. It's more on the underground, but things like peptides I think those are also things that are coming a little bit more to the forefront. And then it's, again, I'm ready to standardize and research that a little bit better.

But a lot of times, a lot of these things will start off in the underground especially with, you know, weightlifters and things like that, and people are using things and you start seeing things and then years later you start seeing it more in the general population. But those things can also be combined with regenerative treatments.

So I'm always looking to see. What kinds of things we can put together, ultimately, that would give somebody the best outcome and the most long-term outcome.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Yeah, it's so interesting, and as you're saying that with some of the advancements that have been made, if you can wave the magic wand here, I'm handing it over to you. Deep Wealth Nation, you can't see it, but I'm handing over my magic wand to Dr. Mian and. If we were to fast forward five years from now, and of course we have artificial intelligence that we're hearing big things about, and particularly on the health side and the medicine side.

Again, all of [00:30:00] that combined into where you think we're going best guess as to where you see this, where we aren't today, but could likely be possible.

The Impact of AI in Medicine

Dr. Fawad Mian: Well, like I said on the regen side I think what AI is gonna be really helpful is synthesizing large swaths of information. So for instance, if there's a large bot, a lot of research that's being done, being able to synthesize that down into something that's a bit smaller too as well.

But I think AI also can be quite helpful in the sense where it might help us in areas of research too, as well, and being able us to direct in those kind of areas. Ultimately in terms of also looking at things where certain things are gonna be processed with stem cells and things like that, I think there's gonna be eventually be a role.

With something like that too, as well. So I think the future is exciting with all of this. And AI obviously is spreading, its, spreading everywhere into multi areas of our entire world essentially, and everything that we're doing. So, I'm really excited about that ultimately when it comes to all of this and just more advancements that are coming out.

And I think AI is gonna help make that a little bit more mainstream in the next five [00:31:00] years.

Balancing Professional and Personal Life

Jeffrey Feldberg: And Dr. Mian, how are you keeping on top of all these things, or even ahead of all these things, you have your practice and your patients, you have your own health, your family, your personal commitments. How do you fit that in? What's that looking like on your side?

Dr. Fawad Mian: Yeah, so just like many of the folks who listen to this are burning candles on both ends. I mean, I'm not a stranger to that, to always try to learn how to pull back, and I think that's one of the most important things to learn or whatnot. But I, I look at research. I also look to see what other people are doing across.

I think seeing what other people are doing across the world, I think is also helpful too, as well. And then researching things, I think is really helpful. And for me, I'm always looking at physiology and all of that. I mentioned, even things like, peptides. And so I've been looking more into that in terms of the physiology and how that's something that could heal somebody.

And so for me it's like a little bit of a labor of love. But it's something where I'm able to put it into part of my weekly practice of doing something like that. 'cause I think ultimately medicine is moving so rapidly. I think You can't just stay in one area and, just rely on one dogma for everything ultimately, because I think the world [00:32:00] is changing and you're gonna see it passing by if you're just stuck there.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Yeah, it is like anything else. How do we keep on top of our craft and ahead of it so we can reinvent, reimagine, and create and get all of that out there? 

Debunking Medical Myths

Jeffrey Feldberg: What do you think is the biggest myth. That here and today as we're talking the general person and specifically even the entrepreneurs in Deep Wealth Nation that are listening to this, what would be one myth that you'd like to share with them and saying, Hey, I know you thought that this may be the case.

You may wanna rethink that or look into that closer than what you have in the past. What would you say to that?

Dr. Fawad Mian: So I would say maybe two things. One is, I mean, drugs and surgery is not the only option for you. 'Cause that's what traditional medical care teaches you. So if anything, I hope, people, hear that loud and clear. But the other thing is if you're not really feeling well too as well. That's the time to really seek out other people too, as well, and get other opinions too. Ultimately it's how you feel. It's your body. So you don't have to accept living with brain fog, say, for instance when you know that, there may be other things that are underlying your issue and that you need to dig a little deeper to figure what that is so that you're not [00:33:00] stuck with taking things that you don't need or stuck in a rut where you know you're worsening.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so really not to put words in your mouth. What I'm hearing though, you can say, Jeffrey OnBase off base. Be open be flexible. Things change. Beliefs that we had today may not be correct for tomorrow. So be open to saying, Hey, okay, not anymore. I'm gonna experiment. I'm gonna try this or try that. Just like we would in our businesses, what worked yesterday, there's no guarantee that it's gonna work today.

In fact, usually are seeds of failure. Tomorrow's failure are coming from today's success. As crazy as that sounds, oftentimes that's really the case because we become lazy and, hey, yeah, I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing. It's always worked. But things change. Our bodies change, the environment changes.

Medical findings all are changing for us and oftentimes for the better. And if someone could coming outta this episode, and we're not in the rappa mode just yet, but coming outta this episode, if they could do one thing. That could really move the dial for them on their health. A low hanging fruit, [00:34:00] whether it be in the neurology area or the peptides, even sleep, whatever it is that you think would be the most beneficial.

What would be one thing that coming outta this episode I could do that could really move the dial for my health?

The Power of Exercise

Dr. Fawad Mian: So if I had to pick one thing that would knock out multiple words with one stone, it would be exercise.

Jeffrey Feldberg: So talk to us about that. When you say exercise, how much, what type, what is that looking like?

Dr. Fawad Mian: So I'd have to lean on, depends on where the person's at ultimately, but. I would say like in general, if you're able, just say for the average person who doesn't exercise a whole lot or hasn't seen the gym very often or whatnot, as you mentioned before, yeah. If you're going for maybe, some walks and those walks could be brisk.

Maybe 15, 20 minutes can go 30 minutes if you're able to as well. I think that's something that can be helpful, especially like after a meal. Say for instance, we eat a meal, blood sugar goes up. That kind of helps streamline that blood sugar so there's less insulin resistance that starts building up to as well.

That'd be the most basic fundamental thing you can do. I mean, there are other things people can do, whether. They're doing things at work where they're gang up to walk around too as [00:35:00] well, or doing squats in their chair. Or, there's some people that get as fancy as having the small little mini treadmill like at their desk and they're walking while they're doing their stuff.

I think that's helpful. But the other unsung hero that gets thrown out on social media too as well, which I've been a big proponent of many years before that even started happening. It's actually trying to build muscle. So lifting weights I think is important. That doesn't mean that you've gotta be lifting weights like the rock or anything like that, but you know, it's like you're lifting lighter weights, even if you're not used to doing something like that.

And maybe having a trainer that helps you if it's that's possible or some sort. If you start building muscle, it's more it basically it becomes more physiologically active and so able to regulate your blood sugar better too, as well. Increasing muscle mass ultimately will help you with muscle imbalances too, as well, and less injuries.

'cause as we get older, we start losing muscle mass for every decade of life. And then you get more fatty deposition and replacement of those muscles too. And so. You end up becoming more sick and more inflamed essentially, or whatnot. So exercise, [00:36:00] whether, it's walking lightweights and things like that would be the most basic fundamental thing I would have somebody do.

If you say, Hey, I have a bad knee. Well, there's a recumbent bike, and you can always get one of those, start working with that. You can still get lightweights and still do things. There are always are ways around of like where you're at with everything so that you can at least start something.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And we can have not just an episode, but an entire series because as you're talking about moving around and glucose levels, I know the studies somewhat dated, we've actually talked about this on the podcast before. It was close to nine outta 10 people, and I suspect now is probably closer to 10. Outta 10 people have some kind of metabolic disease that's going to lead to inflammation, and now all the studies are sharing that inflammation.

Which could come from something as simple as, well, I just had a meal and I didn't take a 15 minute walk. I'm just sitting at my desk or I'm sitting on the couch watching TV and my glucose levels are just going off the charts, which on its own, the body can handle, but one thing after the other, sometimes it can push the body over the edge that we're inflaming ourselves and that's leading to so many of the health issues that we're seeing today.

That's just me though. [00:37:00] That's a data point of one. As you with all the letters after your name and being he there and the doctor, what would you say to that? Is there something to that?

Dr. Fawad Mian: Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, I think that's all really important because I, we see that a lot, right? And so if you really, for instance, if you want to get so granular and start measuring things and, you know, and even then those things are out there now, it's maybe a little cost prohibitive for some people.

For some people maybe not so much, but not even having like a glucose monitor and just seeing what happens. I think if people actually had those more people had them and they started, measuring what's happening to their blood sugar after they eat. They would be very surprised about the stuff that they thought was quote-unquote healthy and watching their blood sugar skyrocket very sharply on that glucose monitor.

And that's not a good thing. 'cause it really should be a slow, steady rise and then come back down, not something like this. And then it comes back down like a short peak and you come down either side of the mountain because that's where people are running into trouble. And so you'd probably make better choices about what you consume too, as well.

If your stress is high, you'll also see your blood sugar spike up too as well and come back down. So sometimes I look as a surrogate of like, how stressed are [00:38:00] you with everything?

Especially if you're working on eating the right kinds of things.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Well, let me ask you this before we go into wrap up mode. Is there a question that we haven't yet covered, even a theme or message or topic that we haven't addressed that you wanna share with Deep Wealth Nation before we wrap up?

Addressing Memory and Brain Fog

Dr. Fawad Mian: Well, I mean, I'll just touch on it like a little bit, you know? You know, one of the things I've also been diving into deeper is just on memory and brain fog for people. Even then, I mean, there's a course I started developing because, and the reason why I did it, I'm gonna put it out there soon, is because I look at everything that's out there and it's there's just a hodgepodge of all sorts of different things.

Nobody knows what to do, or nobody knows what to at least look at or understand, and I see the same problem over and over again. And so I just developed a series of videos that I just put together. At least gives you an overview of different things you can look at and what would, things to evaluate and potential diagnostics and things like that you could do.

So I feel like in this is a really big thing because especially as, especially, with entrepreneurs, which you know, is a big part of your audience is, when you're going a million miles a minute, maybe you're not sleeping well, maybe you may not eating your best or whatnot.

Hopefully you are. As you get [00:39:00] older with all of that, it starts accumulating to the point where you start having that brain fog. It's harder to remember things too as well. And so if you can kinda look at some of these basic things as well as some more complex reasons that can start putting you in the right direction, getting you into the right person, and even trying things eventually on, on your own that might be able to help you with your memory ultimately.

And so I think. I think we touched on bits and pieces of it with the blood sugar regulation and the weights and all of that too as well. But, that's a small snippet of kind of what I talk about like in, in those series of videos and everything.

That's something that could always be like a topic for another day where we talk more about memory and all of that. But I just wanted to make sure that people are aware that you don't have to live with brain fog either. There are ways out of it, and I've solved my own, solved many pieces over the years.

That's part of what I do.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And what's so amazing? About this Deep Wealth Nation. And to your point, Dr. Mian, I mean, my goodness, this could be entire series of episodes going into this. There's only so much that we can cover, but Deep Wealth Nation, the big takeaway is, and we'll get to it at the end, is reach out Dr. Mian and some of these.

Issues that we've been talking about. Yeah. [00:40:00] Yeah. Dr. Mian and Jeffrey, that's me that you're talking about. I'm the poster child for that. Have that conversation because why not look into what's possible, what can be done. And I know part of your own personal mantra is, hey, let's turn the impossible into I'm possible.

And that's very much the entrepreneurial battle cry as well as we go out there and solve these problems that people say can't be solved and really make it a better day out there. So really hat off to you for being able to do that. And with all that in mind, let's go into a wrap up mode. 

Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Jeffrey Feldberg: And it's a tradition here on the Deep Podcast.

It's my privilege, my honor, where every guest is asked the same question. And it's a fun question. I'm gonna set this up for you. When you think of the movie Back to the Future, there's that wonderful and magical DeLorean car that can take you at any point in time. Dr. Mian imagine now it's tomorrow morning and you look outside your window.

Not only is the DeLorean car curbside, the door is open, it's waiting for you to hop on in what you do. You're now gonna go to any point in the past, perhaps Dr. Mian in, when you're a young child or a teenager, whatever point in time it would be, what would you [00:41:00] tell your younger self in terms of life lessons or life wisdom or, Hey, do this, but don't do that.

Dr. Mian, what would that sound like for you?

Dr. Fawad Mian: The first thing that popped in my head without even thinking about this in great detail was going back to the time I tore my ACL. Going back to that point and knowing and telling, Hey, look, there are other options besides the surgery you're about to have. And if you can get those done, trust in it, because it's something many years from now that has, has helped a lot of people.

But that's those the most immediate thing that that I can certainly think of. But I think probably the secondary thing, I guess would be a little bit more in line in the non-medical re is, you know, I, think even if I kind of went to my younger self and I saw just some of my failures or whatnot is perseverance.

Perseverance in everything that you do. And, building confidence. At the time when I was younger I wasn't as confident as I am now. And so telling, Hey look, you gotta keep work on that confidence. Build it up a little bit. 'cause that's gonna serve you well as you get older.

Don't feel bad or not great about where you are right now because this can all change very quickly.

Jeffrey Feldberg: [00:42:00] What's interesting as you're talking about that I am hearing two themes that are coming outta that. So firstly, be curious, just because you're told go this way. Well, maybe that's the way, but look into some other ways. And while you're doing that, I'm also hearing you say, believe in yourself

Dr. Fawad Mian: Absolutely.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Oftentimes we know more than we think we know, and believing in ourself will take us away. That's some terrific advice in Deep Wealth Nation. Why not start doing that? Be curious and believe in yourself. And I suspect when you're doing that Deep Wealth Nation, gonna love what you see. And Dr. Mian, before we officially wrap up, somebody has a question for you.

They wanna speak with you, they wanna learn more about what's going on. Where would be the best place online to reach you?

Dr. Fawad Mian: So they can be just on our website@prolohealing.com and so they can actually make an appointment through there. Or, they can simply just call our phone. That's simple way 9 7 3 9 2 8 3 2 8 8. But those would be the two ways they can get ahold of us.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Deep Wealth Nation It doesn't get any easier. This is all in the show notes. Point and click. It's all there for you. Well, it's [00:43:00] official. Dr. Mian, congratulations. This is a wrap and as we love to say here at Deep Wealth, may you continue to thrive and prosper while you remain healthy and safe. Thank you so much.

Dr. Fawad Mian: Thank you for having me on the show. Really enjoyed it today. 

Jeffrey Feldberg: So there you have it, Deep Wealth Nation. What did you think? 

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Actually, it's more of a personal favor. 

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