535 Dr. Patrick Porter

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Introduction

Meet Dr Patrick Porter

Jeffrey Feldberg: What happens when someone spends decades studying stress, sleep, focus, and the brain itself only to realize that most of us have been trying to solve performance the wrong way around.

Dr. Patrick Porter has built his life around that question.

He's the founder of BrainTap and a longtime pioneer in brainwave, entrainment and brain fitness with more than three decades in the personal improvement field. His work sets at the intersection of neuroscience, psychology, technology, and human performance, helping people rethink what it really takes to feel calm, think clearly, and perform at a high level.

But what makes Dr. Porter interesting is not just the science, it's the obsession behind it. He spent years asking a deeper question that most high achievers avoid. If your brain is the operating system behind every decision, every emotion, every breakthrough, why do so few people train it with intention?

He's an award-winning author, [00:01:00] educator, consultant, and entrepreneur who's helped millions through his products and services, and in 2024, received a Conscious Award in health and wellness for his contributions to brain health.

This is a conversation about stress, identity, reinvention and what becomes possible when you stop treating your mind like something to manage and start treating it like something to master.

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Deep Wealth Nation welcome to another episode of Deep Wealth Podcast. Well, Deep Wealth Nation when it comes to your mental health, when it comes to your insights, your energy, your clarity, your focus, even your strategy, both in business and life. How are you on that? Has it gotten better? Has it gotten worse?[00:05:00]

And for most of, you're probably saying, yeah, Jeffrey, it hasn't been what it used to be. It's actually getting on the worst side. What do I do? Where do I begin? All terrific questions. You heard the official introduction. We have a terrific guest in the House of Deep Wealth. There's a fellow founder, a post exit entrepreneur, a scientist, someone who is all into mental health and the brain and the science behind that.

So Patrick, I'm gonna put a plug in it right there. Welcome to the Deep Wealth Podcast. It's an absolute pleasure, delight to have you with us. There's always a story behind the story. What is your story, Patrick? What got you from where you were to where you are today?

Patrick's Origin Story

Dr. Patrick Porter: Yeah. Thank you, Jeffrey. Yeah. What got me here was my dad was a chronic alcoholic, so if you can imagine, I'm a big one on, we learn our superpowers from our biggest default network of faults that happen. I was a big troublemaker. My dad went to a seminar called The Civil Method. He learned to relax. And when he learned to relax, he changed his life and he started, he went back to school, became a psychologist.

I was just a kid at 12 he started doing seminars around Michigan and every other weekend I was helping him with training [00:06:00] groups with meditation, relaxation. Well, later, as God would have it, he put me in a situation where I became the lead researcher for a group called Light and Sound Research back in 1986.

We invented technology that at the Consumer Electronics Show, got the new gadget of the year. But imagine TVs arriving in Africa a hundred years ago. They wouldn't know what to do with it. That's what happened to our technology. We got these big awards, but we didn't have cell phones. We didn't have downloads, but we were training people's brains.

Stress Brain And The 2pm Slump

Dr. Patrick Porter: So my background in psychology, Christian psychology, so I was working with clients. Their biggest issue wasn't what they thought it was. Their nervous system was in a state of sympathetic overdrive. when you're in sympathetic overdrive, that means that your frontal lobe loses blood flow, your amygdala takes over, and you make decisions based on your primitive brain.

So most entrepreneurs are in a state of stress because they take out the garbage, they make the payroll they HR department, they're marketing, they're sales until they get to a point where they're not. And those that make it through that crucible, they become [00:07:00] successful. So But it's really about.

De-stressing. So my whole life has been that way. This equipment was so hard to explain to people. I started a franchise company. We ended up with 108 locations. I was in every major magazine you can think about because I started a whole new industry. So not only a new business, but a new industry. Now that industry, 10 years ago, actually, I wasn't able to get into a neurological conference.

After I sold that company, I wanted to train doctors, medical doctors, chiropractors, neurological, and they said, what you have is a toy. It won't work. So two years ago, I got a lifetime achievement award from that same group because it's not a toy. Your brain can learn in ways that you don't even know, and most people are far more capable than they ever dreamed about, but they're not using technology that's available today or not using.

Foods like nutrition. There's certain nutrition you can do and it's simple. You probably have in your coverage right now. You have to do physical fitness right now. Our lifestyle is meant to cause our brain to stress, get anxiety. We need to [00:08:00] have some kind of brain fitness protocol.

I'm gonna share with you some studies we've done with groups like Microsoft and Google and mass studies that we did with shows that, what I'm gonna show you today, they did at two o'clock in the afternoon. Now why two o'clock in the afternoon? Every entrepreneur listening to this probably says at two o'clock, that's when I have my coffee break.

I have my, candy bar. I do something to stimulate my brain. That's because your nervous system reboots. At two o'clock, your temperature drops two degrees. You need a nap. We don't wanna take a nap. we wanna go after the goal, we wanna go after achievement. But what I showed at Google and Microsoft was, if you take a 20 minute brain fitness nap using the technology, we'll talk about, they actually got 26% more work done that day, which meant they got a day and a quarter more work done by taking a 20 minute break.

So it's kinda like Stephen Covey when he. Hey, sees those guys chopping down the tree, says, Hey, why don't you stop and sharpen the saw? They said, we can't. We're too busy. Most entrepreneurs are too busy. They think that they're doing something in the afternoon, and we've actually showed it multiple studies now that you actually get about [00:09:00] almost 50% less work done after two o'clock no matter who you are, because your brain doesn't have the cortisol it needs the dopamine and the norepinephrine, which is triggered by some of the strategies we're gonna share today.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And Patrick, what's interesting as you're talking about that, as we look around the world, not so much in North America, because we tend to be go and ignore everything else, but in different cultures you have in the Mexican culture as an example, or the Spanish culture, they have the siesta and wouldn't you know it is right around that two o'clock time or maybe some entrepreneurs are going for the coffee.

Other entrepreneurs are just tired, they're exhausted. How am I gonna get through the rest of the day? So it's interesting of what's going on with that Deep both Nation. Go to the show notes. In the show notes. Everything is gonna be there, including links to Patrick's book, his latest one Brain Fitness Blueprint, integrating Ancient Wisdom and Modern Technologies for Peak Performance.

And you can check out the other books as well. Pick that up. 

What Is BrainTap

Jeffrey Feldberg: But why don't we jump right in there and we can talk about what's there, and then we can fill in the gaps and the foundation and everything else because you [00:10:00] have BrainTap revolutionary. I'm gonna call it a scientific device, not a gadget in terms of what's there.

So why don't you walk Deep Nation? I've never heard of the BrainTap before, the science behind it, what exactly it's doing, and would love for you to integrate also what you've done with your background. I know with NLP and with your Christian belief and being a man of God, and also ancient culture, it's all rolled into one in an incredibly unique wrap up of technology.

God, spirituality, psychology. So what's going on with BrainTap?

Dr. Patrick Porter: Sure. 

Mindset Rituals And Reinvention

Dr. Patrick Porter: Let's go back in time for a moment. Imagine you're a 12-year-old. Of a maker like I was, and your dad just gets his brain fixed. He figures out that he's not drinking to get drunk. That's the problem most people have with addiction. They think the person's doing it to get high. They're doing it to get balanced.

My dad found out relaxation works, so he changed his parenting style. My dad would tell us. We got in trouble. He says, go over to my bookshelf. And he had all these self-help books. He said, grab a book off the shelf, read a chapter and tell me how you're gonna apply that in your life. Then you can go [00:11:00] play.

And so at first, I was just joking. I was just pretending, but I kept pulling a book off the shelf called as a Man Thinking. And that book, after about 10 or 15 times of pulling it off the shelf, because it was the smallest book I was trying to get out of something, and just read it.

And that book changed the way I perceive the world because every one of us has a power within us that's far greater than any power in the world around us. But if we don't use it because we're in stress, anxiety, or we think the world is happening to us. There's a difference. If you're an entrepreneur that thinks the world happens to you, you don't know if you're gonna win, unless you look at the stock market or you look at the weather.

All these things, these things are out of our control. We can't control them, but we can control is what happens through us. And so when you think about that power that's greater than you, that's there to support you and work with you. Even in STO They called it that you're basically, you're paranoid, but Your opposite of that, the world is working with you through you to help you through, but you're not [00:12:00] recognizing the signs. So in my life I realized God wasn't out to get me. I woke up every morning. God's gonna make my life miserable. I would actually plan for my time in my bedroom when I would buy models.

I would buy different things. because I knew I was gonna get in trouble when I was in my room. I wanted something to do, then I realized I'm putting a lot of effort into planning my demise. Why don't I spend that same time, energy, and effort into my success? And so I had to come out and give my dad a, a, I had to give him goals, right?

So I said I'm gonna be captain of the football team. because I knew that would make my dad mad. Really excited. I was a 98 pound weakling. He said faith without works is dead. And this is what I say today to people. You don't get what you intend in life. You get what you rehearse. And I call behaviors now, rituals, not habits.

So we'll talk a little bit about that later because every entrepreneur listening to this has rituals they do every day. And if they don't do those rituals, they don't feel right in some of those rituals are serving you. Some of them are not in my life. He had me do. I had to start running. I had to start lifting weights.

Well To make [00:13:00] this is, long story short, I became captain of all three sports. I got a track scholarship and I became, I got two PhDs. I'm not the dumb kid that got held back in second grade. I changed my DNA and we can talk a little bit more about that too. Because I know I listened to one of your podcasts, they're talking about DNA.

We do have DNA, that that does interfere or re interact with life. It's a viscous material. If I could take yours, Jeffrey, and Staple to the floor, it would reach to Pluto. MIT has proven that DNA actually absorbs codes from the universe. And broadcast them through your body. So this is why it's so important that we work with something called the Circadian Rhythm.

As an entrepreneur, you need to know when is your best time to make your best decisions? When is your time to just say, pause, break, and breathe? When is it the best time for you to sleep? And I'll go over some of those with you. But, and what happened to me through the journey and finding this out was it was tested in the real world.

And one of the books that isn't published yet that I'm gonna publish is White Collar Psychopaths, because as an entrepreneur. [00:14:00] You are the target. Now, when I went to the FBI after being scammed for a million dollars, they said they don't have any resources we can go after, so it's not worth our time. They said now the biggest scammers are going after businesses because you might invest 10, 15, $20,000 into a marketing campaign and it doesn't work. And you go, oh, it didn't work. No, you were scammed. So you need to understand and really have. In place what you really want of those things. And sometimes you just entrepreneurs go, I'm tired of this.

I don't have energy. I need somebody to do this for me. One thing is you are the smartest person about your business, but I'm gonna give you a little tip here. When you were born, Jeffrey and everyone listening, you were the smartest you're ever gonna be. When you were born, your brain had 18.1 volts. You had a 100 billion neural bit processor.

God imbued you with the intelligence and creativity to absorb the world around you and learn a language. If you ever had children, you go they went from babbling, nothing to little adults by four or five years old, at seven years old. You started making your own decisions. That's why the [00:15:00] Catholic Church, the Benedictine monks say, give me a child till their seven.

I'll give you a Catholic for life because you were formatted. So this formatting, they say we can't change that formatting. I'm here to tell you that's a lie. Whatever you've been told about your past, whatever you want in the future, it's within your reach right now because opportunity is everywhere. But most entrepreneurs have something called nose blindness.

Now, this isn't something we use in psychology. When somebody lives next to a dump and you go, how can you live here? Man, this smells so bad. And they go, I don't smell it. Or you live near an airport and they go, how can you think that airplane go? I don't hear the airplanes, because our brain is super good about filtering out reality.

So if you think you can, when Henry Ford said that, or you think you can't, you're right. What we're saying is our DNA, our biology, even down to the mitochondria in our body. Upregulates when we look at life as a challenge rather than a threat. So as an entrepreneur, you signed up for this and my wife has a really neat t-shirt that says God only gives you what you can handle.

And then underneath it says, [00:16:00] God must think I'm a badass. when you're an entrepreneur, you gotta be a badass. you should wake up with total energy. You should be excited. It's a new day at school. It's a new day. Nothing is the same. Hopefully you got a good night's sleep, and we're gonna talk about that because as an entrepreneur, your superpowers all get incubated during sleep.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Absolutely love all of that. Patrick. Oh my goodness, so much there to unpack in DePaul Nation how I'd like you to think about this. because we may cover some topics that have you feel uncomfortable. Or Jeffrey, you know what, if it's not a complicated spreadsheet with a complicated formula, it doesn't exist.

We're gonna challenge some of those beliefs and some of those theories. How I want you to think about this, depap Nation is everything we're talking about. To maximize your success, we're gonna tune into the world's favorite radio station, w fm. The What's in It for Me Radio station and the what's in it for me?

It's actually for you, deputation. So everything that we're talking about is for you. And just as a side note, DE Nation, Patrick has mentioned God a number of times, I'm a man of God. Patrick's a man of God. If God is not your thing, or maybe it's the universe, [00:17:00] or maybe it's spirituality, whatever it is.

What's interesting about this is firstly, don't shut us down. Don't shut us off. Keep an open mind. Keep on listening. Patrick, what's fascinating is that science, and I'm not a religious person. I don't believe in religion myself personally, but what's interesting is science and we'll call it spirituality, are now becoming one, whether it's the quantum field or the field, whatever you like to call it, it's really one and the same, and it's just been incredible in terms of what's there.

So you shared a number of things. Let's go back. To the very early things that you said, rituals, not habits, and then leveraging that into changing with our DNA. So what's going on there? Let's start at the basics with that.

Sleep Protocol And Morning Fuel

Dr. Patrick Porter: Let's start with the first ritual most entrepreneurs have. They get up in the morning, they're tired, they're groggy. They didn't get any night's sleep because they didn't do a sleep protocol before they went to bed. Their ritual is maybe reading or watching TV or whatever. The worst thing you can do is watch the news two hours before sleep.

If you don't feel good, you don't feel happy, just turn on the news. You'll be [00:18:00] miserable in five minutes. And because it, the last two hours before you go to sleep, that's gonna influence your dreams. So I always recommend you go around the house, turning off the lights, watch comedy, do something light, do some, maybe some breath work.

And what I recommend you do before you go to sleep and remember this, I'm not actually to believe anything I'm saying this is all science. So you can save religion for Sunday morning. This is all science based. It is true when I go to India. I look at the betas, and I've worked with a lot of universities over there that are MIT caliber.

We have validated all the ancient traditions with modern technology. We have modern technology to do something used to hit them 30 years. We can do it now in an afternoon, so we're faster, quicker, and better at it. Which means to get somebody into a meditative state. When you look at a guru, I took a guru up on stage.

I, measured his brain on EEG. I want let everybody see it. I said, anybody in the room never meditate. We don't have time to meditate, I said, and so a person volunteered within 20 minutes. They had the same brain profile as that guru, and I still [00:19:00] remember Varun, Dr. Varun from Ames, Bo Paul, which is one of the major universities in India.

He said, you're cheating. I said, Varun, have you ever meditated to a candle? He said, oh yeah, all the time. I said, that candle is technology. It's just old technology. That candle flickers at 10 hertz frequency. Every cell of your body has a mirror neuron. And that mirror neuron is evaluating your environment.

Not only rerating your DNA every 40 seconds, but also upregulating the system. If you look at it as a threat or a challenge, downregulating, if it's a threat, upregulating if it's a challenge. Now there's a reason why when you go on a maybe a retreat with your loved one and you're sitting in front of the fire, you get a little frisky and you get a little action.

That happens because that 10 cycles actually triggers brainwave activity that triggers acetylcholine. Oxytocin, all the field. There's 54 neurotransmitters and I won't go through all of them, but your brain actually has you in your getting high on your own supply. The problem is if you don't get out of the reactionary mind where dopamine and cortisol and [00:20:00] norepinephrine live, you can't experience that.

That's the spreadsheets you're talking about. The average person we talked to, their brain voltage is now down to 10.1. If it drops below seven. In our studies, which we reverse dementia, six weeks, we saw that their voltage went below seven. They had dementia symptoms. If it dropped below four, they had Alzheimer's.

It's an energy equation and every entrepreneur knows. My energy is what I need because you are the asset that drives the business. So that energy starts with the brain moves down the spine, out to the limbs if you're not energizing your brain on a daily basis. So sleep is really important, and it's something called deep sleep that you need.

Imagine, Jeffrey, you're with me in medical school. It's 2014. We're learning all about the lymphatic system and it stops at the neck, go to any medical book, it stops at the neck, you're in Denmark. Now you're watching somebody do a sleep study and this doctor says hey, wait a minute.

What just happened? There was a whole nother system in the body that they didn't know about. Up to that point, how many [00:21:00] cadavers have they opened up? How many times? They didn't know we had something called the Ggl lymphatic system. And basically it only works during level four sleep. When used to be as an entrepreneur, you'd say, I only sleep six hours, I only sleep four hours.

I only sleep three hours, whatever it is. That is not good. Sleep is not a luxury. It's a necessity. And during sleep you, if you have brain fog, if you're not waking up energized and ready to go, if you need a cup of coffee first thing in the morning, you have a neurological problem. There's no reason you just slept.

Why would you need coffee first thing in the morning? that coffee is actually terrible for you first thing in the morning. And what it does, it crushes that cortisol curve. I recommend you wait two hours. What I recommend you do first thing in the morning to supercharge your entrepreneur brain, whatever you do in business, you need large glass of water with salt.

Now, not table salt, you need Celtic salt or full spectrum salt. They sell it at your local grocery store, and you need about 20 grinds of it. You are a battery. Your [00:22:00] body works on fat and water, and if you don't get enough essential fat, so also first thing in the morning, if you have really good olive oil, not the junk they sell in the grocery stores usually, but you want like a California blend or something like that where it's actually not did, it says it's from Italy because all they do is they drive a boat past Italy and then they stamp it Italy, Italian, olive oil.

You can test it by seeing if it freezes. If your olive oil freezes, it's not olive oil. But one tablespoon of that will reverse your chances of dementia by 40% and it feeds your brain. So think in terms what's your greatest asset, your intelligence, what you do. If you really want to, now that first two hours too, we need to exercise physical exercise and we need to work our muscles.

because every muscle is a pharmacy. It's gonna give us the energy, the vitality we need. And when you wake up in the morning, all the sugar in your bloodstream is in your muscles. It's ready for action. Because think about it, 22,000 years ago, we might have been sleeping outside and we're part of the food chain.

We gotta be [00:23:00] ready to run. We should be excited. Now, when you work out, what happens is you train the muscles to use the sugar that is stored. If the first thing you do is a cup of coffee, I'm gonna tell you what happens. You drink the coffee, you get energized. You crush the cortisol curve, you're, you have no place for that sugar to go zero.

So what happens is you have to start creating insulin. Insulin in a fat storage hormone, what it does is it encapsulates the sugar and puts it in the adipose tissue because it knows it's gonna be later on this year, next year, whatever, you're, there's gonna be a famine and you're gonna have to tap into those stores.

That never happens because we're gonna throw a rock in any direction and hit a supermarket, so that never gets used. And then we create something called insulin resistance. We try to lose weight, when I was featured in People Magazine in 2006, we had sent them over a thousand people that lost half their weight and kept it off for more than five years.

I didn't have a diet. You don't need a diet because it's not what you're eating, it's what's eating you. And that stress response is the exact same thing as eating a candy bar. [00:24:00] So if you're not handling your stress, you can't lose weight.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Wow, okay. So much in there. And deportation. What I love with what we're hearing and deportation, if you're feeling overwhelmed, not to worry, we're gonna give you some answers and some things to do that's gonna make it easier for you. But Patrick, what I love what you're doing is, firstly, you're talking about things, most of which are either free to no cost, so sleep.

It's completely free. And you're right. As entrepreneurs, we've got it all wrong. There's no sleep badge of honor of let's compare how little you slept compared to how little I slept. Yeah, that's a great badge for Alzheimer's or dementia or Parkinson's. Not a great thing to do, which you mentioned. You've mentioned taking some water with.

As an example, sea salt or just clean salt that hasn't been processed and isn't polluted, and all those other kinds of things. A good quality olive oil. This is not expensive, you're saying? We don't have to go into a cave for a year and try to meditate and everything else. So you've given us the basics, the foundation of Okay.

Let's get a good night of sleep. Let's make sure [00:25:00] that we've recharged ourselves upon waking. Hold off on the coffee, have some water. I know for myself, I have just under a liter of water about two glasses, two big glasses of water with some sea salt in their first thing upon waking, just to get some things going with that.

And you shared why we wanna get some movement and some exercise. And depending on the time in the morning when we're waking up, where we're located, perhaps going outside, seeing that sun to get the circadian rhythm going. So we're setting ourselves up for success in Deep Wealth Nation in our upcoming Deep Wealth Mastery Health Program.

We talk all about this, how your night of sleep doesn't start when you get into the bed. It starts when you wake up that very morning, what you're doing. So you're setting this up for success. But Patrick, all of that said. Sleep, and you've talked about this, people talk about this, we tend to take it for granted.

It's our biggest superpower, and I know with what you're doing with a brain tap, not just for sleep, but also throughout the day, these 20 minute sessions that you're talking about, the brain tap can help clear the wave. What would normally take. [00:26:00] Years, decades. For some people or just never for some people, we can do nearly instantaneously with the BrainTap.

So talk to us about what's the BrainTap? You've shared some of the research that went into it, behind it. There's all kinds of studies that have used the BrainTap. It's been proven. It's been replicated. But so many people with nation, they're hearing, okay, brain tap meditation. Yeah, I fail in meditation.

I can't do it for more than 30 seconds. I got the monkey mind. Try the different apps. I try the different meditation as I walk out. Frustrated. What is the BrainTap? What you know, what am I doing? What's it all about?

BrainTap Explained For Beginners

Dr. Patrick Porter: Right, and they're not alone. We've measured 30,000 brains and before we do the studies, we always get their baseline on their own meditation. Most people, that default network that we haven't. Had our own brain. The Dalai Lama calls it the monkey mind. It goes crazy because 30% of your brain goes dormant without light triggering it, the retinal flashing.

So you're wearing something that looks like virtual reality, but the light is tuned to frequencies. So if you and I went to the ocean, [00:27:00] we go, wow, we really the ocean. We're relaxing. That's because a bodies of water or even a waterfall in your office, will stimulate alpha activity because it's 10 hertz.

If you and I went to the mountains. We would trigger gamma. Now, the what's a, the difference between the an theta, which also produced something called gaba, which is a precursor to something called DMTI love it when I get interviewed about psychedelics and people using, I said, you have your own psychedelics.

You have OID receptors, you have all these things. And we've proven with studies that you can trigger them on your own through deep states of consciousness. Now each of these brainwaves are like wifi networks. To give an example. When you're using BrainTap, we put lights in the ears and people look at the lights in the ears and go, what the hell do you have?

Lights in the ears? Every cell of your body's actually listening. It's not just your ears and your every cell of your body is looking. That's why some of these masters, like these Tai Chi masters and martial artists, seemingly can see without eyes and you can go on the internet. There's actually a course, and I've been there.

They teach kids how [00:28:00] to see without their eyes. 

Brainwaves And Memory

Dr. Patrick Porter: This is science now. It's not. We are far more. We're like super humans. If this system is activated, what other internal resources do we have that need to be activated? What we found is that each of these wifi networks, if you will, these brainwaves are designed to bring us different informations.

For instance, if I ask you, Jeffrey, to remember your favorite vacation. It would probably be pretty easy for you. You'd have to sort out all vacations and then figure out the one that's best, but your brain could do that lickety split because it's stored with energy and emotion, and now you just lit up about 12 places in your brain to do that.

Sleep Defrag Protocol

Dr. Patrick Porter: Now, bad memories are also stored, but if we can learn to maintenance them like at night, so a sleep protocol, I'm gonna give everybody a sleep protocol. So your brain functions better because the negatives start to creep in. Just like a salesperson you might hire, eventually they start to predict. how they're supposed to close because they think they know instead of looking at it with a fresh mind, and every person is different.

when you're [00:29:00] sleeping, your spinal fluid is supposed to wash over your brain and disconnect all the ggl cells. So these GL cells actually for memories, short-term and long-term memories, we don't want those negative experiences. Long term memory. What we wanna do is store them as lessons learned.

Like the old saying goes, if you don't learn from the past, you're doomed to relive it. That's because the fragment of those memories, your brain is still trying to figure it out. Your brain is a servo mechanism. And one thing I learned in NLP and I was lucky enough to learn it when Richard Bandler and John Grinder were still together.

So I'm a little bit older than probably a few people on this listening to this podcast. In the process of doing that, what they found was you are. Basically trapped in past programming that doesn't serve you because you've never allowed your brain to do like a defrag on your computer. And they, everything that's in short-term memory if, and that's why Deepak Chopra says six about, we have 60,000 word loop in our brain every day.

And that same loop was playing six months ago. [00:30:00] We need to change that loop. If you want a different life, if you want a different computer, you gotta upgrade your software. And the nice thing is that we can upgrade our own software. We have the capacity to do that. 

Four Eight Breath Reset

Dr. Patrick Porter: So as you think about this at night when I recommend you do a four eight breath, and it's really easy.

If you're not sleeping well, get in bed after you're done with everything you're gonna do in bed, besides sleep. Lay back on your pillow. Nobody needs to know what you're doing. You breathe into the mental count of four. This is gonna trigger your sympathetic system. You might get a little nervous, that's fine.

You want to train your brain to offload stress. Then you breathe out slowly to the count of eight. When you do that a few times, pretty soon your body's pretty relaxed. 

Success Reel Visualization

Dr. Patrick Porter: Now you start to put together your success reel, and it's important that you think of yourself as a superstar. You are the main character in your life, and so what I mean by that is any negative thing that happened to you during the day, you make it black and white, you put it behind you.

And what lesson could you learn from that? And look at it from the perspective that nobody's out to get you. They're for [00:31:00] themselves, they're not out for you, they're for themselves. So you need to be for yourself. And any positive thing that happened, even the smallest things, somebody said hello to you, Hey, you got a great hairdo.

Whatever's going on, you make those bright, brilliant, and in color. because you're gonna train your brain through something called the reticular activating system to notice opportunities and goodness in your life. 

Dreaming Up Solutions

Dr. Patrick Porter: Life is meant to be enjoyed, so you're gonna offload the stress and then what happens is whatever your biggest problem is.

You're gonna dream of a solution. And if you can dream of three solutions, that's even better because the first solution is basically it could be an accident. The second solution could be a coincidence, and it's a dilemma. What do I choose? But when you get to three, you start to activate your quantum brain, you start to activate the dream sequence.

It says, in an infinite field of possibility, what can I do in this moment in time? And guess what? Like all the great inventors in the past, you'll begin to dream of your solutions. Then you have a pad of paper by your bed in the morning. That solution will come to you just as clearly as talking to your business [00:32:00] partner, your friend, your family member, whatever it is, because your brain serves you.

It becomes a very good slave, but a very bad master. If you just let your brain run its course, it's gonna be programmed by those first seven years of your life. So let's activate that and BrainTap gives you those. That's just one thing. We have 3000 sessions. These are all brain trainings that train your brain to do this without you because you're too busy doing what you do.

Reclaim Your Inner Bus

Dr. Patrick Porter: We need the subconscious to take over in a very positive, most people are on the bus handcuffed to the back, and Freddy Krueger's driving. So the first thing we need to do is take off the handcuffs, kick Freddy Krueger off, take the bus where you wanna go, put the people on the bus that you think should be there.

The ones you don't want. Kick them off the bus too. you gotta be very selfish as an entrepreneur because the people you surround yourself with. Are actually adding to or taking away from your energy and there's nothing you can buy back. Time and energy is what makes you successful.

So let's let you know start, and you can do that at night. That's when you do your review and they'll self-select at that point.

Flow State And RAS

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so [00:33:00] deep palpation. As we're talking about this, here's what I want you to think about, and Patrick, I know you subscribed to what I'm about to say, and I'm gonna throw some names out there and some classic books. Let's go back to Napoleon Hill. Think and grow. Rich and Patrick, I know you've talked about this and mentioned this a number of times, so Napoleon Hill, what he basically said was, our thoughts are things and what we think about internally, that's what we manifest externally, but de both nation.

What I want you to think about, let's look at the language that we're using. Yeah, I'm gonna just grind it out. I'm gonna gr it. I'm gonna do the hard work. Yes. That is one way that you can achieve your goals. It's the long way. It's the harder way with what Patrick, what you're just sharing with us right now, when we talk about the quantum field, I prefer to call it God and what's wanted for us.

Whatever your language is. Life is meant to be not without its challenges, but when we're in the zone, when we're in the flow state, it should be with ease and with effortlessness and our goals. Some people call it serendipity or being at the right place at the right time, or was it luck or was it not?

Let's put that off to the [00:34:00] side. To your point, Patrick, when we're doing the right things, when we're activating the reticular activation system, you're right. Our brain is on a lookout for opportunities in Deep nation. We've talked about this before in the podcast. You're looking at a red sweater. You love it.

You buy the red sweater, you're walking outta the store. Now, the rest of the day, in the next few days, red sweaters everywhere. Was it that magically these red sweaters just appeared everywhere, or were they just always there, but you never notice 'em? And so Patrick, I love what you're talking about with success patterns.

When we can train the brain of what it is that we want, it will begin 24 7 to find those solutions. 

BrainTap Programs Explained

Jeffrey Feldberg: So let me get this straight deportation imagine now we've got the brain tap, so we're putting something that covers our eyes. It also covers our ears and in the ears, in the eyes. We have lights that are going on.

We have sounds, we have frequencies, you've talked about the beta frequencies, alpha waves, gamma, theta, delta the different waves. And there's an app that's controlling all of this. And there's different programs with that. So Patrick, walk us through some of the different programs and what the

brain tap's gonna [00:35:00] do for us. 

Dr. Patrick Porter: yeah. 

Mental Rehearsal For Entrepreneurs

Dr. Patrick Porter: I was featured in a documentary with Napoleon Hill. And we have the Napoleon Hill series. We took the Napoleon Hill book because reading a book, knowledge is in power. Knowledge applied is power. So remember what I said earlier, you get what you rehearse in life, not what you intend. So you can rehearse in the space of your mind.

It's better to make a mistake in there than out in the real world. It costs a lot of money in your mind. You can make a ton of mistakes. And every great entrepreneur, every great inventor would rehearse their mind. Even Tesla, when they, ran a motor. They did one test with him. They said, he said, build a motor and I'll tell you how much it wears.

And they used it for 30 days. He was able to tell him the wear down to the micron because he ran the motor in his mind. that's the way when you really tune your brain how you can do it. So we have about 14 different business books that I've been coded into, like miniseries where you train your brain to use them.

Like thinking big as a principle. There's a whole bunch of them in there and I'm always adding more. Because [00:36:00] people have read the books and they go, yeah, that's really good. But then they move on to the next thing. And one thing I should say is the best time to read those books or do the mental exercises for entrepreneurs is after you exercise, because you trigger something called BD and f, brain derived neurotropic factors.

I want you all to think about it as miracle grow for the brain. don't just stop your exercise and run off. When I wrote articles for weightlifting magazines like Muscle and Thickness, I would show them how, if you did a 10 minute. Little meditation. After your workout, you actually grew more muscle.

Because the acetylcholine didn't wash out by the stress of getting in your car and driving home from the workout facility. So there's a sequence to everything, and the brain works best in cycles. So as you learn to master your life one day at a time, now we're not asking to change everything.

Just change some simple things, change some simple rituals. You'll find that you'll build new rituals. They will be just as strong, just as powerful, but they'll get you what you want out of life unless instead of what you basically keep intending, you just start doing something [00:37:00] small and that creates the arc of change and transformation that you want.

Minimum Dose Vs Ideal Use

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so Patrick, when it comes to the BrainTap, what would be two base case scenarios? So one would be the minimum effective dose. And I don't know why this would be the case, because if something can help us get success, bigger, better, faster, you wanna do it as often as you can. But for the founders saying, look, I.

Don't have a lot of time. I'm busy. What's the minimum amount of times I can use the BrainTap that I can begin to see some benefits? And then the flip side of that is, okay, yeah, sure you can do that and there's gonna be some benefits. Ideally though, if I can wave the magic wand, this is how often you're using the BrainTap and here's what you're doing.

Can you give us both base cases?

Dr. Patrick Porter: Yeah, all of our studies are based on three times uses a week because your nervous system resets every 72 hours. So whatever you did 72 hours ago, that's who you're showing up at right now. It's not what you did this morning. This morning is really important and I have the same belief. Win the morning, win the day.

So when you think about. What you did, you're not the sum total of today. You're the sum total of, in fact, MIT actually showed 54 generations are influencing your DNA [00:38:00] right now, and the Hopi Indians said seven generations. So what is it? when you were born, you were born with a set of commands and instructions, and you were imbued by God to whatever you are right now.

So as you think about it. Three times a week is probably the minimum that's to get the results that, that we're talking about in all of our studies. And we have 72 different studies from helping people get off dementia scale to helping students learn better, to helping golf teams in Florida win national championships.

So in helping Tom Brady, he's probably our biggest sports advocate. So when you think about the people that we've helped, they do it every day. At least once a day. 

Three Times Daily Routine

Dr. Patrick Porter: Now, when you first start, we recommend three times a day because in the morning you need a brainwave called SMR. And as you get better looking and more into in age and all those things happen to you, that's the brainwave that atrophies.

So we need to stimulate that in the morning. And so that's a 10 minute session. We tell people, just wake up 10 minutes before your alarm. Set your alarm two minutes earlier because you're gonna wake up with more energy, more vitality. You're gonna have the zest for life that you're [00:39:00] looking for in the middle of the afternoon.

When you start to feel that psychological low, usually it's around two o'clock. It could be one 30 for you, two 30, whatever it is, do a reboot session In the morning, you can do a psychological breath, which is basically breathe in deeply, let it out completely. And you do that until you almost become dizzy and you've triggered the same neuro activity that you would with a BrainTap session.

But you can, you're gonna supply them with the try braintap.com link and they can try it for free. But in the afternoon, you wanna do a full reboot. You need to recharge, revitalize, you need to get those stores of cortisol back up there, the norepinephrine dopamine. So you can go after, you can attack the afternoon, you can make those best decisions because as an entrepreneur, you don't get a choice usually.

Let's put that all to tomorrow when my brain's working better. No, you gotta make that decision right now. And then at night we have Delta sessions that get you into that deep sleep faster. And just to give you an idea, it's not time in bed. When we did a study in Australia with coal miners, the average coal miner before we did the study, had spent 10 hours a night in bed, but they only got one minute of deep sleep.

[00:40:00] Within three weeks, they were sleeping at 70% efficiency, better than 90% of Americans. They work in the dark. They leave in the dark. They never saw the light of the sun, but we reset the circadian rhythm using the light patterns that we have in the brain tear. because that's really what it's doing. It's resetting your circadian rhythm because stress disrupts that, that flow.

So three times a day is maximum. We don't, you don't need to do it more than that because you won't get any neural. But it's different things at different times. In the middle of the day, we recommend box breathing. Which is to breathe into the count of four. Hold it to the count of four, breathe out to the count of four, hold it out to the count of four.

This is something they train every Navy seal. So if you think you're more stressed out than a Navy seal going after a battleship, then God help you. and so you can do that at any time though. Let's say you're going into a business meeting and you just sit down in a chair, do the box breathing, it will reregulate your nervous system.

It will upregulate your DNA, it will have you showing up as your best self. And all that past stuff gets pushed into the background where it belongs.

Jeffrey Feldberg: So Patrick, what I'm hearing, at [00:41:00] least in the beginning, three times a day, 10 minutes when you wake up, and then around 2:00 PM perhaps for 20 minutes, and then right before bed. To get ourselves back to where we were when we were first born. You mentioned when we're born, we're perfect and everything is great, and then life happens and things go from there.

And then it sounds like once we get to the right place. We're not gonna be necessarily as reliant because we're back to where we should be. And you're saying as a minimum, three times a week, ideally more than that. But we're getting ourselves just like we're going to the gym in the early days, it's gonna be a little bit different.

We're gonna be feeling some pain, perhaps we're building some muscle, we're gonna be back at it. But when you look at the people who've been doing this for a while. And they're doing all the right things. They don't have to be there necessarily every day for hours at a time because they built the muscle, they know what they're doing, and the body's responding accordingly.

Meditation Versus Technology

Jeffrey Feldberg: And now I'm thinking of those in Deep Nation who are listening to us talk and they're saying hey Patrick, Jeffrey, that's all fine and good. You know what? I'm one of the few I can do meditation. I [00:42:00] do do meditation each and every day, and life is great. Patrick, I know you're a modest enough guy that you'd probably say to that person, then don't worry about it.

You don't need brain tap. Keep on doing what you're doing. If meditation's working for you, fantastic, God bless you, and may you go on and prosper. That said, where could the brain tap help, where perhaps I'm doing the meditation and, and it feels good, but perhaps the brain tap could get me that X

Dr. Patrick Porter: always talk about Tom. I mean, If you think about the world's greatest quarterback of all time, why would he use BrainTap? Why would all the peak performers at biohacking use BrainTap? if you go to Dave Asprey's, 4,000, 5,000 people there, 75% of 'em use BrainTap because they measure the result.

They want more peak performance moments. They wanna show up as their best self. Mike Tyson, as a saying, everyone has a plan till they get hit. What are you doing when you get hit? What I do is I challenge them. I have a piece of technology that I invented too, called Neuro Check. I can measure your nervous system.

I don't have to guess. And it's been validated around the world. I can take five minutes [00:43:00] before and after meditation. I've only met two people outta 30,000 brains, and I've met people that are braggarts. I've met gurus, I've met everyone. They can't do what you can do with technology. It's like I can walk to California from Newburgh, North Carolina, or I can get on an airplane, I'd rather get on the airplane, and plus it takes effort. and we have music only sessions. So what I tell them is, use the music only sessions. Do your own meditation. You're gonna get a deeper meditation, you're gonna get the neurological benefits, and you don't have to be in your head doing it. we meet them every day at conferences and we hear about it and people saying, I meditate in theta.

And I'm telling you, that's hogwash. I've seen too many people, there have been two people that we've measured that actually had a practice that actually changed their nervous system. The others actually got worse. Their brain was overthinking This reboot we were talking about three times a day is not about your conscious mind.

If you could consciously make these changes, you wouldn't be listening to this podcast. It's your subconscious that controls 97% of your daily activity. [00:44:00] We need to get this information into long-term memory so that you start to think about these things without having to think about them, and then you have a good life.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so Patrick, what I'm hearing you say, and you can share with me, Jeffrey, you're on base or off base. Let's look at it from the side of things of everything can be a means to an end. We don't meditate for the sake of meditating. We're meditating to get to a better mental state or to lose that tiredness and get refreshed and recharge.

And so from that perspective, if it's a means to an end. Why not leverage the technology that we have? It's not harmful. It's actually helping us. And if we can do it perhaps better, more efficiently, faster well, it's not cheating, it's helping. It'd be like saying to your example. You shouldn't be using a car because that's cheating.

You should be walking to the West coast. It should take three months when you can drive. Better yet, why don't you just fly? And if you're on the East coast, you'll be on the West Coast in five hours and call it a day and look at all the time that you saved. So you're leveraging the technology board. I love with what you've done and we glossed over it.

It's not just [00:45:00] science for the sake of science. You took spirituality, you took what ancient wisdom is from the cultures, the eons of wisdom that was there and, and you've put this all into one. The psychology with NLP, you've integrated this all into one system. How am I doing with that?

Dr. Patrick Porter: That's it. That's exactly it. 

Results And Scalability

Dr. Patrick Porter: I tell people we have a technology problem in the world today. We need a technology that's scalable, that could be taken across the world. We're in 103 countries right now, and it's growing every day. We only have a less than 1% churn on our app. We're the example they use with our credit card processor.

They go, what are these people doing? Our average user uses it 27 times a month, so they're getting results. I wouldn't be doing this if it didn't get results, I'd do something else. So it's all about results. You either have excuses or you have results. So this is something that can, and usually it's an energy equation.

Like I said earlier, if you need energy at any time during the day. This is one thing you can do without it. There's a negative to when you do biological. It's like coffee and tea and chocolate and all these things that stimulate [00:46:00] Yeah, they can get you by in all those supplements you can do, and I'm a big supplement guy.

I believe you need to take them, they're not gonna be the only answer. You have to have that movement we talked about. So it is a whole equation. It's not just one thing. Even brain tap's, not just one thing. If If you do the other things that I'm sure you're training them to do in your course, then this is just an additive thing that's gonna basically let it work a little bit better and faster.

Jeffrey Feldberg: To me though, what's really jumping off the page here, look, I can eat all the right foods. I can be doing all the right workouts. I can be taking the supplements, but fact of the matter is if my sleep just isn't there. None of that. It's not none of that, but a lot of that isn't going to show up. So it's an entire system.

And what's fascinating about this is from a physiological side of things, from an emotional, a mental, a psychological, you're helping with the sleep, you're helping with the nervous system, you're helping to, hey, let's back off on the stress, get back into the relaxation where the magic happens than the other areas in our life are gonna be shining and coming through, and you're helping us do [00:47:00] this through the technology, through proven science and research that's been done also with things that have been known for quite some time with the ancient cultures.

One Action Check Your Breath

Jeffrey Feldberg: Let me ask you this, Patrick. A listener coming out of our episode today, they don't have the BrainTap just yet. Yeah, they wanna do that. They wanna pick up some of the books, get the BrainTap. But what would be one low hanging fruit someone can do right now before they go into the next phone call, their meeting or the activity that would help get them to a better place.

From all of the research that you've done, from your own experience, from working with other entrepreneurs and founders, what's one action that I could be taking that would really make a difference?

Dr. Patrick Porter: Check your breath. Most people don't breathe. Your breath controls your nervous system. Most people don't breathe right. They hold their breath all the time. Take a few deep breaths, focus on breathing. Don't worry if you're doing it right, you can't breathe wrong, and start breathing out twice as much as you're breathing in.

That will reregulate your nervous system, get you refocused and you can do it at any time, cost you nothing. 

Intentional Brain Care

Dr. Patrick Porter: And as we wrap up the main thing is [00:48:00] that you've gotta be intentional about your brain care. You can't let it go to default, because the worst thing is we have a sick care industry, we have a healthcare industry.

Most people confuse the two. When you go to the doctor, he might say, you're not bad enough yet. Go get worse we'll fix you. You wanna never see the doctor. You wanna be, you wanna stay healthy and well. So you wanna stay in the healthcare division, not in the sick care division. So if your brain's working well, now let's keep it running right.

It's a lot easier to stay in shape than get back in shape. And same is true with your brain.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Absolutely. Having that prevention and being ahead of the curve, doing all the right things, it's so much more, I'll go back to the effortless and with ease when we're on the right side of health. Everything else would fall into place and we're gonna go into wrap up mode. And I get to ask my favorite question to wrap things up.

But before we go in there, I'm looking at my list of questions. My goodness, Patrick, I've barely scratched the surface. So before we go into the wrap up mode, is there an important question that you and I haven't yet covered that you'd like to get out there?

Dr. Patrick Porter: Well, I think we've covered a lot of things that I [00:49:00] think the biggest question is can they do something right now? And they can, you can start taking action right now to have a better brain and a better life. You don't have to wait for somebody to diagnose you or tell you something's wrong, that there are things available.

If they want to take the next step, they can download the app. They don't have to have the headset to get results. The headsets amplifies those results so they can download that for 14 days and do their own in one study. You know the study of one, see how it works for you and report back your sleep because 90% of people say they have their best night's sleep during that 14 day trial.

Jeffrey Feldberg: I absolutely love that. And again, duplication. All of this is gonna be in the show notes. It'll be a point and click. And so why not get the app try it out for a couple of weeks, see how it goes. And if you have to be having a wearable, you'll see for yourself, okay, how's my sleep doing? How's my deep sleep, my REM sleep, all of that other good stuff.

We'll talk more about that when we do wrap up. 

Back To The Future Advice

Jeffrey Feldberg: So that said, it's our tradition here on the Deepal Podcast. Patrick, it's my privilege, my honor, where I ask each guest the same question. It's a fun one. Let me set this [00:50:00] up for you. When you think of the movie Back to the Future, you have that magical DeLorean car that will take you to any point in time.

So Patrick, it's tomorrow morning. This is the fun part. You look outside your window. Not only is the DeLorean car curbside, the door is open, waiting for you to hop on in which you do. And you're now gonna go to any point in your life, Patrick, as a young child, a teenager, whatever point in time it would be.

What would you tell your younger self in terms of life lessons or life wisdom or, Hey Patrick, do this, but don't do that. What would it sound like?

Dr. Patrick Porter: I really wouldn't change anything because I wouldn't be where I am right now without all those mistakes. But if I had to choose a time and place, I would go back to the time we invented the technology and explain it differently. Because I didn't know what I did. We didn't have all the technology to prove it out.

So we were explaining it totally. If I went back now, I'd cringe at the way we were talking about it. It worked, but it was like we sounded like babbling idiots, you know? but now we have science to back it up. I would go back and change that scenario.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And if you were to encapsulate that into a sentence for your younger self, what would that sentence be? What would it sound like?

Dr. Patrick Porter: Don't worry [00:51:00] about it. Science is gonna prove this out. Let their experiences prove it to themselves. You don't have to explain it to them.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Absolutely love that. And you know, it goes back to the bigger thing that oftentimes in our minds we make it so much worse than what it is. Hey, don't worry about it. It's all gonna work out. Or going back to what you and I were speaking about earlier, Hey, you're exactly where you need to be. You're at the right place at the right time.

That universe, God, spirituality, it's got your back. Just do what you do best. Absolutely love that. And Patrick. 

Where To Reach Patrick

Jeffrey Feldberg: Someone in Deep Nation, they have a question for you. They want to speak to you. Perhaps they would like, Hey, I wanna introduce this to my entire company or my leadership team. Where would be the best place online for someone to reach you?

Dr. Patrick Porter: They can go to dr Dr. Patrick porter.com. I have a form there. They can get to me and that'll email me and my assistant and we'll get back with them if they join try braintap.com. They'll also get my company so they can reach me that way too. They'll get an email with all the emails and all the numbers that they need to contact us.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Love it. Then again, Deep Wealth Nation. We're gonna have all that in the show notes as a point and click. It doesn't get any easier. Patrick, it's official. [00:52:00] It's a wrap. Congratulations, and as you love to say here at Deep Wealth, may you continue to thrive and prosper while you remain healthy and safe.

Thank you so much.

Dr. Patrick Porter: Thank you.

Final Subscribe And Farewell

Jeffrey Feldberg: So there you have it, Deep Wealth Nation. 

What did you think? 

So with all that said and as we wrap it up, I have another question for you.

Actually, it's more of a personal favor. 

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