576 Mike Hammond

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Founder With Momentum

Jeffrey Feldberg: Some founders build companies. Mike Hammond builds momentum. With thirteen successful companies started and counting, Mike has spent his career turning ideas into action, obstacles into opportunities, and vision into real-world results. He understands what it takes to create something from nothing, lead through uncertainty, and keep moving when the path is anything but clear.

But behind Mike's entrepreneurial journey is something deeper: faith.

Faith in God, faith in people, faith in the mission, and faith that the right work can restore what life's hardest seasons have taken away. 

Signal Relief Mission

Jeffrey Feldberg: Today, as the founder of Signal Relief, Mike is bringing the same entrepreneurial energy to a mission that touches almost everyone: helping people experience life with less pain and more possibility.

Signal Relief offers a drug-free, reusable pain relief patch designed to work with the body without medication, [00:01:00] wires, batteries, or invasive intervention. But behind the product is something much bigger than pain relief. It's about giving people back the freedom to move, work, lead, play, sleep, and live with more confidence.

For high achievers, health is never separate from performance. When the body feels better, decisions improve, energies return, relationships feel lighter, and life opens back up. Mike's journey is a reminder that the best companies do more than solve problems. They restore possibility, and sometimes the founder's greatest opportunity becomes something far more meaningful: a mission.

What becomes possible when people are no longer held back by pain?

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Podcast Welcome And Pain

Jeffrey Feldberg: Deep Wealth Nation, welcome to another episode of the Deep Wealth Podcast. Deep Wealth Nation, let me ask you this: How are you doing when it comes to discomfort or pain? When you woke up this morning, what's the first thing that you thought of was, "Oh, man, same blank different day, and I gotta hobble around because it's hard to walk or hard to move around," or, "I wish I was more active," or, "I can't be with the grandkids," and the list goes on and on, and, "How am I supposed to get through my business today?"

If you said, "Yeah, Jeffrey, but what do I do about that? Outside of popping some painkillers, which aren't great for me, I don't know what to do," you've come to the right place. We have a very special guest in the house of Deep Wealth. We have a fellow founder, and not just any founder, though, one who has started multiple businesses, successful in each and every one of them, doing something incredibly interesting now.

You're gonna learn all about that, but I'm gonna put a plug in it. Mike, welcome to the Deep Wealth Podcast. An absolute pleasure to have you with us. There's always a story behind the story, and wow, do you have quite the story. So what's your story? What got you [00:06:00] from where you were to where you are today?

Mike Origin Story

Mike Hammond: You know, that would be a hard question to answer. But as an entrepreneur right, I don't think we ever... at least for me, I've never planned anything. I feel like people are always like, "Man..." Right now I have 13 businesses, right? I've sold five of them. I've had five exits, and people are like, "How do you do it?"

And what it really comes down to is I take advantage of opportunities. I think all of us have them all the time. And my weakness is probably that I don't focus in, right? 'Cause that's why you shouldn't have 13. But one of my companies was, Yeah, my first one that I ever started was a retailer for Dish Network called DishONE Satellite, and by 2010 we were the largest retailer in the United States.

And we got bought. So Dish Network had bought us, and I got a call from a bunch of my... Y- you probably experienced this when you had your exit, Jeff, but when I had my first exit, all of my buddies from MBA school were calling me with great ideas of things I should invest in, right? " [00:07:00] Dude, you should invest in this.

You should invest in this." One of them was he was one of my buddies that... It was a Marriott, yeah, the Marriott hotels. His grandfather had founded that, and He had ran a manufacturing plant that they'd built called Spectrasymbol, and it, specialized in printed electronics at the time.

This was or j- late 2012 at this point. and so he just called me and he said, "Mike, look, I heard you just had an exit. I am building some really new tech right now for the military that I think is so cool. You should come invest." Well, At the time I'm in Denver, 'cause Charlie Ergen the owner of Dish, just bought me, so I'm the CEO of DishONE, and he's got all these engineers.

They're starting to get into cell phones. So I flew out to Heber, Utah, to meet these two inventors that Daniel wanted me to introduce me to, and he flew out about six or seven engineers with me, and then their senior vice president, Amir. And so we went out there and we met with these guys in Heber, Utah.

DoD Antenna Breakthrough

Mike Hammond: [00:08:00] And what they'd basically done is these two inventors got... they were working for the Department of Defense. They were on a contract, and their job was to try and figure out how to shrink. So 2012 you deployed a team of Navy SEALs. They had a five-foot antenna and an 80-pound backpack. That's how they would communicate back to base.

So one guy's job was to carry that thing around, this antenna, this backpack. If it broke, if a b- went through it, there's, like, so many things with something that big that could go wrong. Not to mention just jumping out of a plane with 80 pounds on your back is not great on them. So how do we shrink it down?

And so these inventors had basically fig- figured out. So traditional antenna tech is magnetics. You'll know this. You point it in a direction, the more power you put behind it, the farther a signal goes.

These guys shifted it to be electronic, which electric antennas, the difference is like a light bulb, so it's omnidirectional, it's everywhere.

But you can go about- 300% [00:09:00] faster on 1/10 to 1/15 the amount of power. So you can imagine the difference that would make. So this is the, this is what we flew out to sea. These guys had two cellphone towers ag- across Heber, they were pointing at each other, and they would just ping it ones and zeros. That's all it was.

They're sending a one and a zero across the city, and then we're timing how fast. So they write it down, then they had two credit card-sized antennas with a nine-volt battery. So cellphone towers, and then these little tiny things with the nine-volt battery. We're like, "There's no way." So they ping it. It's 300% faster across the city, that it pings the one and zero, so I was like, "No way."

The engineers from Dish were like, "This is not possible. This is against what we've been told. This isn't how it's supposed to work. No way." And this is the difference between an engineer that's saying, "There's no way, this is against..." and an entrepreneur. I'm like, "Sweet. A million bucks." [00:10:00] So I invested. I was one of their primary investors, actually, at the ear- early stages.

And what ended up happening is as they were... They ended up building these, and they ended up selling them to the government. 

From Noise To Patch

Mike Hammond: But as we were putting these little antennas on the soldiers, we started picking up what we called noise. So when you go to an electrical antenna, the weakness is that now you're in a bubble, so you pick up all the noise in that bubble.

And so that actually becomes the thing you have to try and figure out in getting a signal from A to B, is how to eliminate or ignore certain just the noise, is what we call it. So when we had this on the soldiers, all of a sudden we haven't even hooked the antenna into the radio, and we're picking up interference everywhere inside the antenna, and we couldn't figure it out, 'cause we're not doctors.

Come to find out the body works and communicates on electrical microcurrents the same way. we were just getting inside the body's electrical field, and it was picking up basically stuff that was going on with [00:11:00] the body's normal electrical system. And so, that is where it started, and five years later we ended up with our patch.

Well, Actually later than that, 'cause it was like 2020. 2020 we ended up with a patch that basically helps with discomfort. It's a health and wellness product, but completely non-invasive works better than traditional modalities for most people and usually makes discomfort decrease by over 60% in less than 15 minutes.

So it's been an incredible product. In fact, this was our original Signal Relief, if I... Oh, is this really? There we go. Signal Relief patch right there.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Yeah,

Mike Hammond: then we have this foot patch that we built. Actually, we built this for one of the cabinet members in Trump's cabinet. He had really bad foot discomfort for six years.

They couldn't do- figure it out, so we built these to go in shoes. And I'll show you. So I'll send you a copy of the doctor's text. His personal doctor actually texted us the very, two days later. This is the first [00:12:00] time in six years he hasn't had any discomfort in his foot. This is crazy. do I get research going at Georgetown for this?

This is nuts. and then we have these Jovey ones that we built for like, headaches or menstrual cramps, stuff like that, that, But it's just a game-changing technology. 

How The Patch Works

Mike Hammond: And so, we built these, and the way it works, to give you an idea, just 'cause people are like, "How the heck can an antenna do anything?"

So all pain is when you feel it, is it's energy. So if people get on AI, get on Grok or whatever, Google it, it'll be, if you ask what is pain, what causes it? It's your nerves basically just fire off energy. That energy goes up your neural pathways, and the more energy that hits the brain, the more you feel, more discomfort you feel.

The easiest way to think about it is, I think, a lightning rod, 'cause we're all used to... But basically, lightning hits a house, the whole house burns up, right? But if you actually stick a dumb little lightning rod on the other side of the roof, the lightning will go across the roof [00:13:00] to that lightning rod and into the ground.

And what people don't realize, it's really simple, but it's just energy follows the path of least resistance. And so all that happens with our patches is when that energy hits our patch it's easier for that energy to leave the body and go into the patch. So most people are like, "Oh, it's starting to get warm."

And if they say that, game over. Either I know they're faking their injury if they don't or, or they say, "Hey, it's getting warm," and that, that's exactly what's happening, is that energy's leaving their body, going into the patch, and so they feel it get warm. And usually within minutes of that massive amounts of relief.

First Life Changing Results

Mike Hammond: And so we had built this thing and I actually I owned a bunch of CrossFit gyms at the time with my brother, and I had just come off an injury from 10 years previous where I, we were doing those standing snatches, overhead snatches, and I snapped my back out and it was destroyed.

They told me I needed surgery. I didn't wanna do [00:14:00] surgery. And 10 years later, I couldn't put 100 pounds on my back. If I put 100 pounds on my back, that disc would pop back out. And so I was just in pain, hurting all the time, and I was the first one to actually put this on, and I just... I'll tell you this much, it changed my life.

Not just because the discomfort went away- But what we noticed, and we didn't even figure this out, 'cause we're like entrepreneurs, we're not doctors, so we didn't put the two together. You get rid of the actual signal that causes you to hurt

Inflammation disappears at the exact same time. So what I noticed within minutes, I was able to touch my toes again already.

All that stiffness actually was gone, and I got all my movement back, which allowed me to, over a period of couple years, re-heal and... 'Cause the hardest part of healing a hurt back is that you're not moving anymore. You're, like, rigid, and you stop doing things, right? And so it's like you never build strength in that joint.

But when I got all my flexibility [00:15:00] back, when I wasn't hurting as bad all of a sudden, when I started to actually be able to do things, I was able to rebuild that back. And so it was a game changer for me. I still don't think I understood, though, what it could do for people, because I just thought about it with my own back injury. 

Early Customers And Growth

Mike Hammond: I went home, this is before we ever sold them, and I was buying another company. so I just sold this company, we bought a landscape company out of Jackson Hole, Wyoming. It's in Driggs, Idaho, right across the... So you go over the pass into Driggs, and that's where it was located, but all the work's in Jackson.

And we 500% grew it. I didn't even realize it. We got an offer from a company out of Chicago, and they're like, "Dude, you're the largest landscape company in three states. Did you know that?" I had no clue. I, 'cause that wasn't my goal. My goal was just... I just have fun in the business, right? And so I wasn't paying attention to how big it was getting.

But I was buying that company from a guy in 2020, right before we launched this patch.

And he obviously was pretty well off, but he was [00:16:00] in his 70s, and he wanted me to meet him in this old grocery store that he bought. He bought this old grocery store, and he turned it into an antique car... He calls it the car garage.

it has the original Herbie in it, and all these like, really cool old cars everywhere, right? And he had this original Corvette from 1960,

But original paint, orig- It's like, mint condition. It's crazy. And I was like, "Dude, that is the coolest car." I was like, "We Let's go for a ride."

He's like, "Mike, I can't get in that thing. I haven't been able to bend down that low in 10 years. There's no way I could get in that car." Now, he was selling his business because he just couldn't get around anymore. So I gave him one of my patches. He was the first guy. And I kept his voicemails to this day because to me it was like, I'm brand-new company, I'm like, I obviously as an entrepreneur, I see what this could do for people, but I don't really get it, right?

So he takes it, and he goes to... He had [00:17:00] church that day, he was in a leadership position at his church, and he had to basically speak For two hours and then sit on this wooden bench for an hour. So that night I get a voicemail, he's "Mike." He's like, this is what I loved, was in his mind, he goes, "Mike, He's like, "I don't understand what the hell you put in this thing, but," he's like ,, "this is crazy. I sat on a bench for an hour, I stood for two hours. I didn't even have to take an Advil. This thing's amazing. You gotta call me back and tell me more about this." So I never called him back. So the next day I get another voicemail from him, and I open it up and it's "Mike, I know you're not selling those things, but how can I get another?"

He goes, "My buddy just came over to visit me." This is like old person problems right here. He's "My buddy came over to visit me and he's walking around with a cane. So I took off my patch and I gave it to him, and in 10 minutes he goes, ' don't have...' He goes, 'I don't feel any pain.'" [00:18:00] And he goes, "Dude, I couldn't take my patch back from him." " And I need another one." And so I was like, dude, this is so awesome because it was the very first people I ever gave it to, and it was like the perfect analogy of where I thought this thing would actually go. A, what it would do for people, but then how people would actually think of their friends who are suffering the same way and start actually passing it on.

And that's what's taken place. So I mean, we launched 2020 really soft. We didn't really go to market. We had a lot of clinicals and stuff we were doing, a lot of testing. And about two years ago we really launched it, and we've already sold like 800,000 of these things. So they're just taking off like wildfire.

And, It's just a cool product. Changes lives.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Let me get this straight. I'm gonna date myself a little bit. It's almost like Star Trek medicine here in just a while. And it's not even medicine. It's probably not even a great analogy, but it's like an episode out of Star Trek. And Deep Wealth Nation, a few things.

Firstly, this is not medical advice. This is two buddies, Mike and me. It's a fireside chat. We're just sharing [00:19:00] stories and observations. Anything when it comes to your health, please check with a medical professional before you do anything. And you've got to see this. Go to the website. Better yet, Deep Wealth Nation, go to the show notes.

In the show notes are all the links. Everything we're talking about here, it's all in there. And when you look at this patch, it's super thin. It's less than the thickness of, let's say, a dime. It's super thin, and it's light. It almost looks like a large circuit board that's something that you put onto yourself.

So it's like sci-fi. So Mike, if I'm hearing you the technology came out of the Department of Defense, the DoD. They were working on some other kind of application, and they stumbled onto this. They backed into this thing when they put these antennas onto people. They were picking up all these background noises, and it turns out that wasn't really background noise.

It was the body of how we communicate. It happened to be the same, probably the wrong terminology here, I'm not a scientist, but the same wavelength that their antenna was working on was the same of what the body was speaking on. And what I'm [00:20:00] hearing you say is that when the body is communicating from the different body parts to the brain, when we're in pain, that signal is going to the brain.

But much like a lightning rod, which will divert the energy to the lightning rod so that the house or the car or ourselves don't get hurt, the patch attracts the pain of the signal. That's why we call it signal relief. So the signal of the pain gets diverted to the patch, so inflammation goes down, the swelling goes down, the pain goes away.

The body can now begin to heal itself because of the patch and the technology behind it and all the circuitry that's going and how it's interfacing with the body. But there's no chemicals. There's no drugs. It's a removable patch. You can put it anywhere really on the body, and the way that it's made, it's absorbing or redirecting what would otherwise go to the brain, these signals, and it's going to the patch instead.

Maybe a little bit off base with that, but how am I doing overall?

Mike Hammond: that's pretty much how it works, and it really is, I mean, so I've learned this [00:21:00] actually over time, 'cause we're not doctors, right? So pain's an actually diagnosed disease, so this is we call it just discomfort. This is, we deal with discomfort. But it's a health and wellness patch, not a medical device.

It's a health and wellness patch, and what I love about it is it doesn't replace... I think everything has its place, but what this does is allows people to live life free of the effects of what pain actually causes a body to do. I think the biggest problem we have is it's what are the effects of pain?

What does it actually cause us to do? It'll cause... Usually we start to... what I've noticed is it's all-consuming, so people usually they're thinking about it all day. They stop doing the things they love. You stop going out and doing the things that you used to just love. You stop spending time with your family because you hurt all the time.

And this is something that actually gives people that part of their life back, and so, this was, this was actually my favorite experience ever with it. 

Giving People Life Back

Mike Hammond: It was my best friend from high school.

[00:22:00] I just moved back to Idaho, 'cause we'd built all this in Utah. So I moved back to Idaho over by Jackson, right?

In that area. And I go to a football game. My boy plays football.

And at this football game, my boy is scoring a lot of touchdowns. So at the end of the game when they're shaking hands, this guy comes down and goes, "Hey, I noticed that you're a Hammond. are you related to Mike Hammond?" And my, son's like, "Yeah, that's my dad."

And he goes, "Dude, that was my best friend in high school. Is he here?" So I meet him at this football game 'cause my son brings him over, and it's my old buddy. And the reason I didn't know is he had just moved back to Idaho. But when we were 20 he lost his leg in an accident. This is a funny one to you, but remember in the, in 2000, 1999 we wore those MC Hammer baggy lane pants that we'd wear around with the drawstring on the bottom?

Jeffrey Feldberg: I think we want to forget that, but yeah.

Mike Hammond: Yeah. Yeah. So he, we were working. He was in a landscape crew. Basically [00:23:00] he was running a stump grinder, and the wind blew that string at the bottom of his pant leg and sucked his leg through the stump grinder.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Oof

Mike Hammond: So he lost his leg up to the knee and last time I had talked to him he was moving back to California to be a nurse.

And they had moved back, and so I saw Matt, and he had gained probably, I bet he had gained 50 pounds from when I'd last seen him. And I just said, I said, "Matt, how's things going?" And he goes, "My leg hasn't grown back." So it just shows you like, that's where all of his focus is.

Your leg hasn't grown back.

are you feeling okay? And he goes, dude, every day. He's like, it's anything just to get through a day, it hurts so bad. And I said well, what have you found that works? And he said I just had a $100,000 pump installed in my stomach that pumps morphine to the spine. He goes, that's by far the best thing I've found so far for my leg.

So I was like, dude, I have a patch I want you to try. So he's a nurse and I'm telling him there's a patch. He didn't even wanna come back with... it took everything in me to get him to [00:24:00] even come to my office to try this thing on, 'cause he's this is stupid, I've done everything. There's no way.

So I put it up right above his knee, right on... Actually, I put it on top of the prosthetic, right where your knee goes in the prosthetic, 'cause it doesn't need to be touching the skin, right? And 10 seconds later, his shoulders are shaking, he looks up, tears are in both eyes. He's it doesn't hurt. It's the first time in 16 years it hasn't hurt.

What really got me is when I turned around, 'cause I was so excited for his two twin boys his twin boys and his wife, all of them were bawling instantly. hit me when I saw the whole entire family in tears as fast as he was in tears. It was like not even 30 seconds this time period. And you realize how much that affected everyone, that injury.

And in every way, they got their dad back. I mean, now he's riding horses. He owns a mule with me. We go up into the mountains, he hikes. Like the things he had stopped doing 'cause it was just unbearable, he can do again. And [00:25:00] so like when we say our goal right now as a company is to give people their life back, it's because of those type of experience.

We've had hundreds of those now. Like it really can give people their life back. And so if you're someone who your feet have been hurting really bad or you've got shoulder, neck, knees, any of those things that are just breaking down, I just say what do you have to lose? I mean, a patch lasts a year.

It's reusable. So if you look this up, it's reusable every single day for a year. It's actually like the most affordable thing on the planet. 

Jeffrey Feldberg: Incredible. and so the science behind that, without geeking out and getting into all the details, we know it works, and don't kick the gift horse in the mouth when it's doing, all these amazing things. But so lower back or upper back or my neck or my shoulder, elbow, hip, knee, you name it, where there's pain, I put it in and around that pain area, and it reduces the inflammation.

And I know this because myself and the team behind the scenes, I shared offline, we're putting together Deep Wealth Mastery Health, [00:26:00] and inflammation literally rusts the body from the inside out. It's the worst thing that we can do for our bodies, and pain is probably the top of the list in terms of the inflammation and what it's doing to us that we don't even realize.

And so when the pain is diverted, or those pain signals are diverted, and the inflammation now has a chance to come back down, is that giving the body a signal of, "Hey, everything's okay. Now begin to heal this area or get it back to

Mike Hammond: So that, that's exactly what we're noticing now, is the body doesn't heal till the inflammation's gone. And so if you can get... I mean, you sprain an ankle, like we've been taught, right? We wrap our ankle, we set it up on this thing, and that ankle basically gets the swelling out of it is when it first starts to heal,

Just accepted and it's normal.

But the body's the same way with everything. 

Thermography Proof

Mike Hammond: And I'm gonna share something with you actually that I think is just so cool. Can I share my screen?

Jeffrey Feldberg: You can share it in depolation. I will describe to the best of my abilities what I'm seeing [00:27:00] as Mike shares the screen. And while he's doing that, it just sounds as though you've got a gazillion of these antennas that are somehow printed into this patch, and that's what's now attracting the pain signals away so the body can reduce inflammation and heal.

I'm seeing it's called thermography depolation, and walk me through what I'm seeing on the screen. It looks like it's somebody's back, and there's a lot of red areas at the, on some of the shots, and then the, it's all green 

Mike Hammond: So what's really interesting with thermology is wherever you have an injury, it's going to be white is the h- is and then red, and then yellow, and green, and blue, right? And so you can see where an injury is usually because it's inflamed, and so you have a lot of heat in that area.

So you'll notice, this is what's crazy about this, is you'll notice how much inflammation's in that area around the back at 2:10 PM. We now stick a patch the back, look what happens only 30 minutes later in the [00:28:00] second picture

Jeffrey Feldberg: It's amazing. So Deep Wealth Nation, imagine it's like you're looking in the first pictures, it's like you're looking at a volcano. There's red everywhere and this white, like white hot. 30 minutes later, I'm seeing a lot more green in the red area. I want to say by at least half it's shrunk. The white area is almost gone entirely.

This is just in, in 30 minutes

Mike Hammond: Yeah. And then you'll see three days later and it's a whole different thing. And so it's not like... So imagine how much better your body can heal when it's in that state three days later,

Jeffrey Feldberg: It, it's incredible. And, And then I see below it, it looks like it's somebody's neck, where in the neck all you're seeing is red. The entire neck with the thermography, it's all red, and then a short while later, it's all green. There's no red to be seen. So all the

Mike Hammond: And what's really interesting is what happened to the back where you don't even have the patch. And so the inflammation didn't just leave that area, but all the surrounding areas. And [00:29:00] so that's what we're noticing. We do a lot of thermography now, and it actually has the same story every time.

It's incredible. But that's what it does. 

Try It Risk Free

Mike Hammond: And so this is the thing. We have a money back guarantee, we give people like 45 days to try this out, and it takes 15 minutes or send it back. If you are hurting and you're in this situation where what you're doing right now hasn't worked, I just think this isn't like any other patch.

This isn't, it's essential oil or anything that you're putting in your body. This is... You're putting nothing. It's so different that I just say, "What do you have to lose?" Because I think this is a game changer. It's changed thousands of people's lives completely, and it could change yours.

And so I just encourage people to try it, to give it a try because you're not gonna be out anything if it doesn't work. But according to our five clinicals that we've ran, it's going to work for 85% of people, which I don't know very many things out there that work for 85% of people.

Jeffrey Feldberg: [00:30:00] Incredible. 

Pain Meds Vs Patch

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so Mike, let me ask you this, and This is just Jeffrey's data point of one or my own thinking on this. I could be completely off base. So the more traditional way, when I'm feeling some pain in my body, I'm taking some kind of pain medication. Let's put aside all the chemicals and all the drugs and the side effects from that.

My body or maybe my nerves are being tricked that the pain isn't there, but the inflammation's still there, and it's... I don't feel it, but the body knows it's there. I'm not gonna be healing because the inflammation is there. And what I'm seeing with the patch the difference is... And again, there's no drugs.

There's no chemicals. I'm putting a very thin adhesive in the right area of the body, wherever the pain happens to be, and based on the thermography and what you were sharing with me, the inflammation is actually going down. And it looks like in the pictures, the more blue that I see, that's better. And so where I saw red and white and green, [00:31:00] that became pretty much blue once the patch was working.

So it sounds like the patch is drawing away the pain signals from all the antennas that are built into it, and the body's saying, "Ah, okay, I got the clear to begin to heal because pain signals aren't there anymore. I'm now gonna heal the body." And is that more or less what's going on? So-

Mike Hammond: that is actually. 

Inflammation vs Recovery

Mike Hammond: In fact, we've noticed it with... And a lot of people actually, one of the biggest questions we get a lot is is that a bad thing though? Don't we want to feel... We want it to hurt." The reality is, So it's good to know there's an injury there, and you've got to be really careful with everything.

Pro Athlete Results

Mike Hammond: So for instance, we did a thing with BYU baseball for a year, and they used it on pitchers. And normally when a pitcher gets done pitching a game, it takes four days before his shoulder feels normal. He'll feel a lot of swelling. Well, These guys would pitch, put the patches on right after, and they'd wake up in the morning with zero inflammation in that shoulder.

That doesn't mean they should go [00:32:00] pitch the next day, for sure. They should still give it time to recover, right? But it does mean that it recovers quicker. And we used the national soccer team in Mexico. We gave like 200 of them to them. They called us back, said, "This is the biggest advantage I've ever seen."

What are you seeing? And we go, we get a lot of quad injuries, and quad injuries for them is 28 to 31 days. But when they used the patch, it was half that time. 

Safe Use Not Numbing

Mike Hammond: But you still got to be careful, and you got to be smart, right? 

Jeffrey Feldberg: I can drink too much water, and I could end up literally passing away because I've diluted all the salts and everything in my body. So anything on an extreme can, can be dangerous to us. But what I'm hearing you say is when used properly and correctly, and you're smart about it, if there's inflammation or if there's healing, number one, the pain is likely, no guarantee, in 85% of the cases, the pain is likely to go away a whole lot quicker, and then healing is likely to happen a whole lot faster.

It doesn't mean if [00:33:00] I'm pitching today, I can go back out tomorrow and pitch a double header and back-to-back games. But to be smart about it, and I can feel better. I don't have to feel that discomfort necessarily and giving my body a chance to heal faster. How am I doing with that?

Mike Hammond: No, that's it. That's it. and I think in this scenario, what I love about it is you're not numbing your body's ability to feel, and you're not scrambling your nerves like a TENS unit, so that they're scrambled for two hours and can't work, so I feel like in every way, this is actually maybe the healthiest way to deal with it outside of just putting ice and sitting forever.

I mean, this is a great way to actually deal with it. we haven't seen any side effects yet out of 800,000 of them. It's been super positive

How The Patch Works

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so I believe you've answered one of the questions or the concerns that I had, because I know inflammation's not great for the body, but inflammation can be healthy for the body in that it tells the body, "Hey, there's a problem here. You need to know about this to be able to deal with it."

But what I'm hearing you say is unlike traditional medications or pain [00:34:00] medication where it, I feel, this is Jeffrey's point of view only, I'm not a medical doctor here. When I take a pain med, it's actually dangerous because I don't feel the pain, but the inflammation's there, the pain is still there.

It's like a hammer is banging down on my thumb all the time, but now you've removed the sensation of the hammer, but it's still there. But because you have a gazillion of these microscopic antennas that are built into the patch, it's helping to reduce that noise or that pain noise to the brain. The inflammation begins to settle down a whole lot quicker, and the body begins to heal.

So it sounds like it, it's helping the body get back to, I'll use a fancy word, homeostasis a whole lot quicker than the more traditional ways of doing things.

Mike Hammond: It's you're into it 100%. I think if there's ever a non-invasive way to deal with something, I always try that first. And Western medicine really does have its spot. Like I, I get tired of people saying, "Oh, it's evil and this is bad, and this is good," right? But I love [00:35:00] longevity clinics because they're built around you being the healthiest version of yourself.

Living as good a life as you can for as long as possible, and then when that doesn't work, then we have Western medicine to come in and save the day. But it's like everything I can do to not need that medication, to not have to put stuff in my body, anything I can do to basically, to deal with discomfort in a way that allows me to stay, in my opinion, healthy and free of any of that stuff, I try first, and I use that as a last resort.

And so I just feel like this patch fits perfectly into what, where my core belief system already was. 

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so to confirm for Deep Wealth Nation, there's no wires, there's no electrical parts, there's no chemicals, there's no drugs. There's not some big bulky thing. It's a razor-thin adhesive. It's got the special technology behind it where these antennas are built into it. I don't see them. I don't feel them.

I just put it onto the body, and it talks to the body in a way that [00:36:00] directs the inflammation signals or the body signals so that the inflammation can begin to go down, the body can begin to heal. And so from that perspective, with the patch in mind and the Signal Relief in mind, let me ask you something because they're really intertwined.

I can't separate one from the other. It's an incredible story with Signal Relief and the technology that's going on behind it. By the way, this would be for another episode. If this is going back a couple of decades of when the DOD developed this, I can only imagine where they are now. We can't even talk about that.

Even if you knew, you couldn't tell me.

Mike Hammond: I got some way cool stuff coming. Yeah.

Jeffrey Feldberg: I can just imagine that. 

Founder Lessons Resilience

Jeffrey Feldberg: But talk to me, founder to founder. I mean, you've had 13 different ventures that you've started. They've all been successful. So what have you learned that you're applying to the Signal Relief? As successful as you've been, no one's perfect. I looked at my nine-figure exit, and we had some huge mistakes.

It was successful, but we still had some mistakes that if I were doing it again, I would know what [00:37:00] not to do or what to stop doing, what to start doing. So for Signal Relief, what are some lessons learned from your other ventures that you're now pouring into Signal Relief? "Yeah, hey, I didn't do that before.

I probably should have. Yeah, I'm now doing that in Signal Relief," or, "Yeah, you know what? In my venture number five, I did this, and wow, did that come back, and that really hurt." Not doing it with Signal Relief. Any founder to founder insights or lessons you can share with us?

Mike Hammond: So this is a really interesting one 'cause you're kinda playing on... I, I uh, there was a period of time, the reason I originally moved to Idaho is I wanted to teach at a school, actually, entrepreneurism. I did it for a year and I went insane. But while I was there teaching, what I noticed with a bunch of Harvard studies is there was a thing where they wanted me to actually really drill into the students that 2 out of 10 businesses are gonna fail, half those will never break $2 million, half those will not make it past year five.

So really it's like you have a 1 in 20 shot of really making it 10 years in your business, right? And so [00:38:00] I'm, like, looking at that going, "This is nuts." So I'm not Elon Musk. I haven't had these billion-dollar exits like some people, right? I would call myself a small business entrepreneur, seven, eight figures I'm in that realm, but I haven't done the billion-dollar exit, I don't believe it. I don't believe any of those odds are true. I think it's people. I think that 2 out of 10 entrepreneurs have what it takes, because what I've noticed in all my businesses with all my partners is I've been a paper millionaire like all of them.

When I first start it, they're like, "Awesome ideas." I'm like, "Dude, this is going to the moon." And then reality hits and all these tough things come. 

Construction Company Crisis

Mike Hammond: And I think a perfect example actually is my construction company. So this is what's funny. So I paid $24 million for this landscape company in two weeks before COVID hit

Jeffrey Feldberg: Oh, ouch. That hurts

Mike Hammond: But it's worse. So I'm teaching up at BYU-Idaho. There's another entrepreneur teacher up there that had retired. He was only [00:39:00] 35 when he retired. He was a Vivint VP. And we're sitting there, and I'm buying this landscape company, and he comes to me two days before I finish it, and he's "Bro, can I please buy in with you?

I need something to do. I wanna buy in with you." And I'm like, "Dude, at this point I've already got the bank financing and stuff done. Just come in after the fact, but you can come with me day one, and we'll just say we bought it together, but we'll figure it all out, okay?" So we walk into this construction company day one.

It has about, at the time, 270 employees. The old owner would never let me meet the employees, 'cause he was too afraid of all of them getting freaked out, right?

Jeffrey Feldberg: Sure

Mike Hammond: And I find out when I get there that half of them are visa workers. I can't speak Spanish. I can't even talk to half my employees. And at the point, I've put a bunch of money down.

I've probably f- I think at that point we had $9 or $10 million in a loan. So our mortgage payment is about 250,000 a month on this thing. Well, I get there day [00:40:00] one. The CFO comes up to me and she's like, "Hey, I need you to put $600,000 in our bank account today, or we're not gonna make payroll tomorrow." like, 

Jeffrey Feldberg: Oh, ouch. 

Mike Hammond: You mean we don't have money?" She's like... I'm like, "Dude, we d- I thought you guys just made $2 million net this year." She's like, "No." So we start diving into the books, and we find out that it was actually the CFO, but there was a bunch of fraud going on, and there was a bunch of fake tree inventory that had propped up the profits.

And we start clearing everything out and getting rid of sh- they were writing checks to themselves and saying they were paying vendors, but there was no vendors getting cash and it was crazy land. So what had happened is this old guy, Mike, who had never been to school, grew this company to about, it was about $13.5 million a year landscape company at the time.

And uh, all of a sudden he's like, it says he's making 2 million. He owes taxes, but he doesn't feel like he ever has any cash, and just overwhelmed. So he's like, "I gotta sell this." That's what I'm starting to figure out, right? [00:41:00] So I find out once we dig into it that we lost 400 grand that year, didn't make 2 million.

So this is like, but I've got a loan. I've already given him cash. I have the bank loan for 10 million. I've got a mortgage payment for, so I think with the cash shortfall and the mortgage, we were down like, 290 a month

Negative. So I sit down with Brian and I'm like, "Bri," this is two stories for people.

I'm like, "Brian, you do not have to do this with me. I did this. Obviously, my accountant that I hired missed the boat on this. I am not putting this on you." He goes, "Mike, I gave you my word I would do this with you. I'm not gonna back out on you just because it got bad. I'm with you to the end." So he came and signed on the notes.

We dove into it, and we realized our margins were amazing, but Mike had so... He'd built this destination nursery that people would fly in on jets to come and see, and the nursery was so expensive. We're like, "We gotta [00:42:00] double it. We gotta get to 24 million to be profitable." So we went to the bank, and we asked the bank...

We basically came up with this thing. We told the bank, "Hey, this is the scenario. This isn't what we thought. You guys might lose your money, unless you lend us another $7 million for equipment. But if you give us it, this is our margins. This is what we can do. We'll hire the employees. We're good at this.

You just need to trust us that we'll pull it off. But if we can get 80 more employees, buy 7 million more dollars of excavators and minis, I promise you that we'll turn this thing around this year." The bank did it. They gave us the money. We bought the equipment. We grew the employees. We finished the year 23 million in revenue.

We made 800 grand that year. The next year we made two and a half, the next year four, the next year seven, and over the next six years we grew at 500%.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Amazing

Mike Hammond: but if you think of, like... And I forgot that two weeks after we found out we bought this bankrupt company, [00:43:00] COVID hit. No one was allowed to work, right?

So it was, like, all at once. 

Mindset Over Odds

Mike Hammond: But I pull that back and I'm like, I feel like all my companies, including Signal Relief, 'cause I'm not a doctor, we make mistakes all the time. I feel like all my companies hit situations that are just like this, and I think most people, they curl up in a ball, they give up, they stop, they go, "Ah, I can't believe I got hosed.

I can't believe this happened to me," and they focus on what isn't going right. And as a result, everything starts to crumble. But there's certain entrepreneurs and people, again, and and I think there's people far sharper than me even, but there's certain people who are just resilient, and we're eternal optimists, and we look for what's going to make it work.

We don't focus on what's going wrong. How do we get through the current problem that we're struggling with? And that's the lesson I would wanna leave with people is it's not what's happening in your business as much as it's how you're handling that opposition and those trials. [00:44:00] So what type of person are you?

What type of an entrepreneur are you? The owner of The Jazz, Ryan Smith, I know him. him and his business partner were some of my buddies growing up. I haven't seen them fail in anything. I have so many successful entrepreneurs that I've seen have eight, nine, multiple successful businesses.

And so I just don't believe that it's the business. I believe it's the individual. And so if some of your listeners are going through a huge struggle, hopefully I can give you the hope that, dude, you can find your way through it. Don't give up. Just figure it out. It's a mindset, and very rarely do I think it will fall apart.

I think it can happen to everyone, but I think those odds are almost the opposite way for the right type of individual

Jeffrey Feldberg: If it was easy, as the saying goes, everyone would do it, and that's why you have the entrepreneurs and the wantrepreneurs. And the difference of what I'm hearing is for the entrepreneurs, hey, it's not that we necessarily welcome the challenges, but it's okay, whatever it is, I [00:45:00] got it. Didn't choose it, but I have it within me.

I'll figure it out. I'm not saying it's necessarily gonna be overnight or the easiest thing, but I'll get through that. So as you share that story with the construction company, and we now look to Signal Relief, is there a particular moment that comes to mind with you that, wow, incredible technology, amazing patch, it can really change the world.

I never saw this particular challenge, otherwise known as an opportunity. Let me apply that same kind of thinking now or that same... It's really mindset. You're taking me to step five mindset of, okay, how am I gonna deal with this particular challenge, or as founders we call it opportunity that, that's here.

Anything that comes to mind of where you need to apply that?

Signal Relief Scaling Hurdles

Mike Hammond: a hun- 100%. And so we have some new tech I can't talk about right now that's nuts, but with our current tech that we have right now,

Just with what I've told people I thought this would be a billion-dollar company year two. This is gonna go nuts. We're gonna change the world, right? So we start launching it, and all of a sudden everyone's 'You guys are liars.

Nothing can work like that,' right? I [00:46:00] start to realize what you're actually up against when you have something that's different from the norm. How do we actually instruct people to think this is real? 'Cause you have all these people online that have never even used it, and they're like, "That stuff's fake.

It doesn't even work," right? And it's 'cause it's so outside the norm, and so we've had to figure out how to educate. That's why we shifted to TV on Fox News is 'cause I was like, we gotta get out in front of people and talk about it enough that the barriers go down, that they can accept that there's actually something this cool that really can affect their lives.

And the other thing I didn't realize is I never... I thought we can be in the health and wellness space and murder it, and what I'm realizing now is for this to really change the world we need to go through FDA clearance and get it so that doctors can prescribe it and use it in place of what I think is harming people, and that's been a really uphill battle.

I mean, there's a lot, there's a lot to that. You gotta get a lot of universities involved. You have to start spending a lot of money. I think again, it's the same type thing 'cause you start to [00:47:00] realize every single clinical trial is a million and a half dollars. I went to a MAHA event, and RFK was speaking, and he said...

It was him and Dr. Oz, and they said, "We're trying to redo the FDA process because right now the average company to get a single product through the FDA is $100 million in 10 years."

Jeffrey Feldberg: Wow

Mike Hammond: that's a wall, right? That you gotta figure out. And so we've been learning, trying to figure out how to navigate that, how to actually fund that, how to figure that stuff out.

And so even though we have this game-changing product that I think can change the world and the way we deal with discomfort,

We have a lot of figuring out to do that's no different than the construction company. And so you just gotta be persistent and, dude, there was a point in time when I blew, like, all my ca- I put $4 million into building the patch, and then I gambled on a marketing strategy and it...

We were down to $100,000 and I was like, "Oh my gosh, I blew it all," right? And we're, like, figuring it out, starting over. But we figured it [00:48:00] out and then we, that's when we launched TV and then it started going crazy again. it's funny because when I look at it, it's like all of it could be seen by someone as pure luck.

Oh, they got so lucky. But I think it's just tenacious, refusing to give up, and being just so persistent. I think we're so much more capable of figuring things out when we don't give up. And it's like when things get squeezed like that, it's funny how much more your ideas just get better and more conservative and you really, you're like, "Man, now I only have 100 grand.

What am I gonna do? At least I had all this inventory I'd bought." And we just started to figure it out.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Amazing. 

Big Pharma Pushback

Jeffrey Feldberg: And Mike, let me ask you this before we start going into wrap-up mode, because not to go down the conspiracy theory or things like that. Look, you're in a multi-gazillion dollar industry, and unfortunately, I'm not gonna call it healthcare, I'm gonna call it sick care because that's what it is. If I were to s- to design a business model, the ideal business model would be customers for [00:49:00] life, that they can never leave you, because if they leave you, it's pain for them.

Welcome to sick care, otherwise known as healthcare with Big Pharma. It's literal. It's physical pain. They're... From a shareholder perspective, they don't want you getting better. They want you relying on them for life. And so from that perspective, you're up against these huge multi-gazillion dollar companies where they don't want people putting on, compared to their medications or their solutions or their vaccines or whatever the case may be, they don't want you putting on a patch that you can take on or off.

It's gonna last a year. I mean, it's a terrible business model that you have, and relative to what they're charging, it's a rounding error. Have you run into any, let's call it opposition, I'm being polite with that or some challenges along the way as you begin to change some lives and get some more people into the community?

Mike Hammond: We actually have ran into that a lot and this is what I can tell you that I've learned. That is definitely something we're up against What I've learned is [00:50:00] there's just as many people who actually only care about healing and taking care of people and want it to be different. And so how do you get enough of those people behind you?

I think the best thing Elon Musk did, 'cause if you think about it, like electric cars, how many times were they stiffed? And people disappeared when they tried to bring in an electric car. But he brought it to the market in such a massive way that you couldn't actually shut it down. And so in so many ways, I just feel like we need to surround ourselves with enough of these stellar people that can help push it through.

'Cause despite the fact that you have this corrupt side of pharma, there's also a part of pharma, and there's people in that industry who are the exact opposite. I think of this, we met with a bunch of the HHS people. We were at a MAHA event, and it wasn't even just about Signal.

It was just a big dinner we were having with all these people. And what I noticed what I loved is that they actually all asked if we could hold hands around the table, and [00:51:00] everyone dude, there was 30 of them, and it's like it was half the leadership of our healthcare system in America, and they were praying, and they were asking God to please help them bring things to help people and bless people and get over the obstacles that keep trying to prevent it.

And so we have a lot of really good people in this country, too, that are really trying to bring this stuff to light, I'm Christian, I just think good and evil forces are always battling each other. But there's a lot of great people, and if we surround ourselves with enough of them, we can push stuff like this through, and we'll be fine.

That's where I'm at

Jeffrey Feldberg: Absolutely love that. And Deep Wealth Nation, whether you're a man or woman of God or you're spiritual or you're not, I want you to listen to Mike's answer because I asked a question and it was, "Hey, you're up against some fairly big companies. How's that going? Are they trying to create some problems?"

Even the mindset of how Mike was answering that, you took the high road with that. What a great example for all of us, and it goes back to what you're saying, "Hey, [00:52:00] no matter what life throws my way..." I'm gonna maybe fill in some words here, Jeff, you're on base or off base. What I've really been hearing you say during our time together is, "God has given me everything that I need to figure it out.

Doesn't mean that it's gonna be a straight

path, but I know with God by my side, I will figure it out. He's gonna make the crooked path straight, and yeah, there'll be some ordeals, but there's nothing that's been put in front of me that I can't handle, and I'm on a mission here, literally a mission to change lives, to make people's lives for the better."

What a difference that is versus playing the victim card. "Yeah, they're out to get us, and they've got these smear campaigns," and the list goes on and on. It's just such negativity that's literally sucking the life force, the energy out of us. I love how you're answering that, and Deep Wealth Nation, there's a lot to be said with mindset and our beliefs, and regardless of where you are on the God side or the spiritual side, a lot that Mike is teaching us through how he's answering and what he's doing.

All that said, Mike, I could speak for hours about what you're doing and your 13 [00:53:00] ventures and what's going on with Signal Relief and how you're changing lives. Very sadly, and I mean that, very sadly, it's time to go into wrap-up mode. It's a tradition here on the Deep Wealth Podcast. It's both my privilege and my honor where every guest I ask the same question, and it's a fun question.

Let me set this up for you. When you think of the movie Back to the Future, you have that magical DeLorean car that will take you to any point in time. So imagine now it's tomorrow morning, and Mike, this is the fun part. You look outside your window. Not only is the DeLorean car curbside, which it is, the door is open.

It's waiting for you to hop on in, which you do, and now you're gonna go to any point in your life. Mike, as a young child, a teenager, whatever point in time it would be, what would you tell your younger self in terms of life lessons or life wisdom or, "Hey, Mike, you could do this, but don't do that"? What would it sound like?

Think Big Advice

Mike Hammond: Dude, if I could go back in time, I would go back to myself as a teenager right when I'm graduating.

And whatever it took, I would get myself to [00:54:00] understand that I feel like I spent half my life thinking so small.

Thinking, "Oh, man, if I could get a job that made 200 grand," or, "If I could..." And it's like it took me so long to get to the point where I actually thought big enough to do things that actually make a difference in people's lives, and I feel like, I think that a lot of people are in that similar situation.

But for me, I would go back and I would get myself to start thinking big at an earlier phase of my life instead of at 45. Right now I'm almost 50, and I feel like I started finally thinking big at 45, which is just too late. Not too late, but you could sure accomplish a lot more with 20 more years of thinking that way

Jeffrey Feldberg: I love that. So think big, you can do it. So what does that mean today as you think big compared to back in the day as a teenager? So perhaps it's with Signal Relief, perhaps it's with another area in your life. Can you just give us an example of that mindset [00:55:00] of thinking big?

Mike Hammond: Yeah. When I started my first business, I remember doing this napkin and I was like, "Man, if I could go sell 3,000 of these things, I can make a million dollars," da, da, da, da, da. When I started Signal Relief, I started with, how do I get one of these in one billion homes?

Jeffrey Feldberg: I love that. Cis 

Mike Hammond: And now I'm thinking internationally, what all are we gonna need? And so I'm starting actually with this grand picture of where we want it to be, instead of like, how do I get this so I can sell 10,000 of them? How do I sell 20,000? And then 10 years later we're like, "How do we sell 200,000?" Instead, it's like, how do we actually get this into a billion homes?

And then you start working your way backwards, which is what pushed us into the decision of we need to spend money right now going through FDA and getting this so it can be in hospital systems. This needs to be more than just a health and wellness device, even though it perfectly fits into that area, and it is just a health and wellness patch.

But [00:56:00] how can I actually make this so that it's in a billion homes? And so, it changed the way we actually attacked the market and where we allocated our money. But ultimately, I feel like when we accomplish what we're set after it's 20 times bigger than it ever would've been if we were just trying to sell patches.

And so I didn't learn that until too late in life, and I think that's what I would tell, teach myself to do

Jeffrey Feldberg: I love that. And it's, yeah, you know, maybe I could settle on maybe a million patches sounds good as a big nu- no. It's not a million. I want a billion, maybe even more than that. I want the whole world to be able to know about this, and we can change lives and get that out there. That is thinking big.

You could have settled literally of, okay, we'll be in the health and wellness space, nothing wrong with... no. We're gonna go, we're gonna get the clear all the approval. You know, I don't know if we can do it, but we're applying. We'll figure out a way, and all things being equal, we'll get the FDA clearance, and now we'll have that.

We can put that on our packaging. We can now open ourselves up to an even larger market. I love [00:57:00] that kind of thinking. And really for those that are on the spiritual side, whether you call it God or the universe or the Creator, isn't that what the Creator wants for us? Oftentimes we're thinking too small.

And for me, I'm a man of God. It's God saying, "Jeffrey no, no, no.

Mike Hammond: Mm-hmm. 

Jeffrey Feldberg: You're thinking too small. I want you to be big and successful and glorious because you'll give me the praise and glory. Through you, I'm gonna have you show the world what anyone can do when you have me at the center of your heart." And Mike, that's exactly what I'm hearing from you.

So Deep Wealth Nation, where are you in your goals and your vision? Are you playing the small game, or are you playing the big game? Are you thinking too small, or should you be thinking a much larger game even beyond your comfort level, you can't even imagine it? Or as the saying goes, "Let go, let God," to go down that God side of things.

Of I can't even imagine what's out there. I am just gonna follow my heart, have God at the center of my heart, do what's right, and see where that's gonna go because there are some big plans [00:58:00] there for me, and let's see what those are, and we'll have God do the rest on that side. Think big and have that belief and put others first.

Help enough people get what they want, and then eventually as founders, entrepreneurs, business people, we'll get what we want. 

Where To Buy Promo

Jeffrey Feldberg: And so Mike, all of that said, if someone in Deep Wealth Nation, they want to have a conversation with you, they wanna check out the Signal Relief... And by the way, Deep Wealth Nation, I've seen other patches before none have been like this with the technology, with the results, how it's been designed. It's completely different. So if you've tried a patch from a different company and it didn't work or you didn't get the results, put that aside. Come in with an open mind. And where can people find you online? Where'd be the best place, Mike, to get some more information about 

Signal Relief or speak with 

Mike Hammond: yeah, signalrelief.com. So signalrelief.com and you have actually a promo code for all your listeners wealth, that basically gives them the 10% off of everything that we're doing. but they also can, anyone can email me, and it's [00:59:00] mike@signalrelief.com, anytime

Jeffrey Feldberg: And Deep Wealth Nation, this is a founder, 13 different ventures and counting. He's just warming up. So mike@signalrelief.com. He's giving you his email address. Reach out to him. Have that conversation. He can share with you. He's been there, done that, as the saying goes. It'll be terrific for you. So Mike, all that said, firstly, thank you, and again, Deep Wealth Nation, go to the show notes.

It's all in there, including the promo code WEALTH. You'll get 10% off. By the way, we take no referral fees, so that's going straight to you. There's nothing in it for us here at Deep Wealth. Go get that discount. Make a difference. Change other people's lives. Get them for yourself, your family members, your team.

Make a difference for them. And all that said, Mike, congratulations. It's official. This is a wrap, and as we love to say here at Deep Wealth, may you continue to thrive and prosper while you remain healthy and safe. Thank you so much, and God bless you, Mike

Mike Hammond: Thank you. Take care

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Jeffrey Feldberg: So there you have it, Deep Wealth Nation. 

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God bless.