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Meet Jonathan Otto

Jeffrey Feldberg: What happens when a filmmaker stops simply telling health stories and starts building the tools he believes could change them?

Jonathan Otto is an award-winning investigative medical journalist. Documentary Filmmaker, humanitarian and Entrepreneur, his work has reached millions through health docuseries, including Cancer Secrets, Autoimmune Secrets, Vaccine Secrets, and others exploring the questions many people ask only after conventional answers have run out.

Today through red light lights, Jonathan is bringing the same investigative lens into red light therapy, cellular health, and the growing world of regenerative wellness.

Jonathan's work is personal. Behind the documentaries, the investigations and the innovations is a deeper conviction shaped by his own search for energy. Vitality and presence, not simply to perform at higher level, but to live with the strength and clarity required to [00:01:00] show up for his family, his mission, and the people searching for answers when conventional paths fall short.

This is what makes this conversation so compelling. Jonathan sits at the intersection of media, medicine, entrepreneurship, faith, and mission. He's asking a question every founder. Parent and high performer eventually faces, what's the point of building a bigger life if your body can't carry you through it?

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Health Is First Wealth

Jeffrey Feldberg: Deep Wealth Nation welcome to another episode of the Deep Wealth Podcast. Hey, Deep Wealth Nation, how are you doing with your health? Because you know here at Deep Wealth, our saying is, our health is our first Wealth. You can have the best business, the best strategy, all the success in the world. But if you can't get outta bed, that's a problem.

So let me ask you be honest with me, deep Nation, when you woke up today, when you got out of bed, was there a spring in your step or were there aches and pains? Oh man, Jeffrey, I don't have this energy. I don't have the clarity that I used to have. Well, you've come to the right place. We have an incredible guest in the House of Deep Wealth.

You heard the official introduction. It's that and a whole lot more. I'm gonna put a plug in it. So Jonathan, welcome to Deep Wealth Podcast. Wow, you have an incredible story. As I shared with you offline, your story behind [00:05:00] the story. That can be the entire episode. But take us behind the scenes. What is the story behind the story?

What got you from where you were to where you are today?

Origin Story Impact

Jonathan Otto: Well, thank you, Jeffrey. You're so kind. my story. Well, look I've had an insatiable desire to do something that mattered that would have an impact. And I remember since I was young, I remember the feeling when I, first saw a well vision commercial, seeing emaciated children in famine in Africa, foreign to me growing up in suburbia in an Australian family that had a single income.

But we never wanted anything. Like, We didn't go hungry at night. So that was a, such a shock to me. And I remember this feeling, and I still feel it today, which was this horror that the world isn't what I thought it was, and that there's something that needs to be done. And unless it's done, then how could I ever feel like I good about myself and feel like I'm not living a lie because these things exist in the world that I'm in. And [00:06:00] if I just go back to regular life, then I'm gonna have to just be okay to live a lie. And, in this case, it was still something very practical, which was, mom I just saw this thing. We need to find a way, we need to sponsor these children.

Because that was what the voice over said, these children don't have to suffer. You can help this child. just for a dollar a day, you can help this child. And I don't really know what a dollar exactly, you know, how that computes at that age. Even though my son's at this age do, I didn't really have like financial training as a kid or anything, but my mom was smart enough to say then, Hey look.

We can do this, you can actually do this. You'll do it and you'll deliver newspapers. And then this is how you can support children. In this case, it was two children for the next 15 years with the rest of my siblings to sponsor them. And it just taught me commitment. From a young age, you saw a problem that it wasn't somebody else's responsibility.

Go fix that problem. If it's to be, it's up to me. And that's what I started to live with that philosophy, which then when it translated into health, I then felt the [00:07:00] same way when it came into global poverty and development and actual infrastructure and systems that would create solutions for people. I became an investigative journalist, worked with World Vision for several years, did a diploma in education, so I took then my degrees, and then interestingly enough, it's funny how I ended up down the health rabbit hole, but that was my own health that was failing, and the same logic that I applied to solving world.

Global problems was the same logic I applied to health. And it was just an investigation for me. And it was about solving what was causing the problems, and then turning around those problems. And interestingly enough, I then became a ex, a extremely sought after expert in health and wellness.

And I find it unusual still that medical doctors that are very well equipped in the holistic side of things ask me for help with their difficult patients. I do. All kinds of trainings that reach millions of people literally [00:08:00] medical doctors that again I didn't think I would contribute in that space.

I don't have a medical degree, but it really does come down to, people don't follow people in real estate because they got a certain real estate license. They follow them because they are really good at making money with real estate. And why would somebody follow someone with health? Well, they don't have many or any cases of people getting harmed from what they're teaching.

That would probably be the first one. Secondly, they get extremely good results and they see many people, in this case, potentially millions of people, reverse chronic health conditions. Then they become sought after. So it's the Wild, wild West, and that's what I do.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Deep Wealth Nation. I gotta tell you, Jonathan is a very humble individual. He's created, I wanna say at least close to a dozen, if not more, of these investigative docuseries all about health. He's rubbing elbows with the famous people out there when it comes to health. You know, All the names that are out there, all the big names that are there.

He is being very humble, very modest in [00:09:00] terms of doing. 

Handling Critics

Jeffrey Feldberg: That, Jonathan, I would say in certain circles, you're absolutely revered and loved because you're exposing the raw truth, and I suspect in other circles, perhaps it's big pharma or others, it is probably the opposite. We can fill in some explicitives of what they're saying about you.

How do you balance that in your life? You're helping us, the people, yet you're probably having a target on your back with big pharma and others who don't want some of the truth and how we can make health our first Wealth without all these expensive drugs or regimes that don't necessarily work. How do you balance that?

Jonathan Otto: Wow. No, thank you man. It's appreciate those kind of words 'cause you just get used to the hard knocks of just realizing you signed up for it when it came to Look if I really do believe that the big curtain that you have to step out in front of the audience with is this shame and humiliation, almost like a hum humiliation ritual.[00:10:00]

How did this word quackery get developed? It's a duck obviously makes this sound quack. How did this get associated with people that. Saying something different to the mainstream medical organizations like that's not a kind title, but then you just realize that the mockery and the shame is going to be the big warning sign to other people like me that want to do something good.

And you know what? It's powerful enough for most people because they don't have the fortitude to deal with that emotionally. And I haven't been at times and just sat there, think staying up at night saying, okay, I just got a thousand negative comments, a thousand. I would hope that maybe it was half.

In this case it was probably three good comments outta the thousand. So that's really bad and I probably am wrong. But then you realize, no, I'm in this silo right now. I'm in this weird degenerate echo chamber that if I was in front of another audience, they would say the exact opposite. [00:11:00] Similar to what you said. About it being a very appreciated and celebrated discovery and exploration. So you just gotta muscle up, man. You gotta be willing to take the beating. And here's the thing that people don't talk about. You can't take the praise seriously. As well as you can't take the backlash and the criticism seriously.

You, are grateful. For example, Jeffrey, you share something that means something to you from your heart that of what I've helped contribute or something. And I receive that and I don't deflect that yet, at the same time, that doesn't go into this tally that causes me to see myself a certain lens and that my self worth is dependent on what Jeffrey thinks of me and how amazing he thinks I am.

If he thinks I'm a complete fool, I still have the same. Resolve. And that with somebody like Jesus, where regardless of whether people think that he's the best ever or just another person, one thing you've gotta marvel at with Jesus is that he could take a beating from a criticism [00:12:00] point of view, as if it was nothing.

And if you could live like that with your business, you would be very successful. That's all I could say on that.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Absolutely. My goodness. We can have an entire not episode, but series on that. That's a wonderful topic and subject. And by the way, deep Nation, everything that we're talking about today, this is a fireside chat. It's two friends, Jonathan and Jeffrey. We're sharing our anecdotes, our stories. This is not medical advice.

Anything that we're talking about. If you're thinking about doing for yourself, please check with a medical professional. 

Why Red Light Therapy

Jeffrey Feldberg: Again, these are simply our opinions that we're sharing because Jonathan, it's interesting, from the Cancer Secrets to Autoimmune to vaccine to COVID, to the Bible to healing. You've covered all those areas, but now your focus is on red lights and you have a company.

You've started Red Life. Love the name. So firstly, why did you choose the red light area, and what's Red Life all about?

Jonathan Otto: Yeah. Awesome. Now thank you for seeing all the work in [00:13:00] the docuseries and all of that pursuit. And there's a direct link between all of it, so when I go into solving the issue with let's say, cancer or autoimmune disease or thyroid disease or dementia, then I'm going to look at all the tools that are relevant.

And the reason why red light then was so moving to me, to them want to innovate and to create great products in that space was because it was the game changer. It was the slam dunk. It was the thing that was doing things that I'd never seen before in my multi-decade exploration into health.

I had not seen it before to this level. And I just wish that in some ways I had it for different family members back, you know, a decade ago when. Even though that was when some of my exploration started I feel a little disappointed that I didn't catch on to really understanding how to use it fast enough that what difference could that have made for different loved [00:14:00] ones and to give people an understanding on that.

If you just put into look, your audience are well equipped in ai. I already know that in the sense that they're all using Claude and Manners and Grok and Chad DT or something. Everyone's using everyone that's remotely in the know and remotely an entrepreneur, which this audience is epic entrepreneurs.

They're gonna know something. So now you start messing with this. When it comes to solutions to cancer with red light, that's a fascinating pursuit. If you pull up the documentation. And I'll do it myself here, just do it real time. Look up the studies on methylene blue and red light.

It's called photodynamic therapy, and this is equating to complete success. In, in. Now there's collectively thousands of studies together, but if we just look at the photodynamic therapy studies, what you'll find in this reviewed seven out of 10 study collection from PubMed, they found [00:15:00] that many of the different cases of cancer were up to a hundred percent success in short periods of time.

In this case, the malignant melanoma was 99% tumor size reduction. Okay, so that was near complete remission. this was animal models into tumoral injections of methylene blue and then red light over it. We're not in the Mad Max land necessarily right now, where everyone would have to go and do, go look, I read this study now I'm gonna get the methylene blue and inject myself.

and this is not medical advice, right? This is an interesting dive into this, and there are facilities that are doing these types of treatments, and a lot of people that are watching this right now are thinking, okay, well I'm kind of interested in preventing cancer. And there have been studies done on red light therapy and preventing cancer.

Jeffrey, just a quick response or a quick summary there is simply that this was such a, which is such a game changer it was so moving to me to see that there were answers to these issues. The breast cancer case was a hundred percent tumor [00:16:00] size reduction, complete remission, and the control group grew by 1100%.

Colorectal cancer was. 99.9% near complete ablation, which is remission, 900% growth in controls. And then the colorectal tumor was 99% reduction. So now these were animal models, but the human studies were showing the same types of results, which was, this was a case on, was melanoma skin lesions, and this was five sessions only.

And this was complete clinical remission in five outta six tumor sites. So you could probably understand now, Jeffrey, why I felt like this was something that I wanted to be a part of because I knew that, humanity could face a mass extinction event when it comes to cancer. 'cause we're already at one in two males and it, we used to be three in 101 in three females.

So I want to be in the Super Bowl of being a part of humanity's recovery and way to get through this. I don't want to be on the sidelines. I'm ready for that battle.

Jeffrey Feldberg: When I look at your journey, Jonathan, [00:17:00] one of the common themes that I see through it is, regardless of what the area is we're talking about red lights, and we'll get back to there in just a moment. You're really a trailblazer in reaching out to humanity, literally, because you've reached out to millions and millions of people and saying, Hey, your health, firstly, this is your sovereign right to be healthy, and it's not what you've been told.

It is not what you think. There's other solutions that you're probably not being told that don't necessarily cost very much money and can change your life. Now, what's sad about that, Jonathan, is even on this very podcast, if I say certain words or certain terms, we've already said some of them. That could get us flagged, even have us taken off some of the channels.

So it's really the big brothers watching over us that sadly, big pharma and others. We have to be careful with what we're saying and what we're doing. But your theme is taking the truth, a very simple truth, not to confuse simple with simplicity. Taking it out to the masses that can literally change their lives, save their [00:18:00] lives, make a difference.

And so you begun to share these studies, peer reviewed independent studies, nothing to do with U Eye done by scientists that are saying, Hey, look at this. When we use red light under these conditions, look what, how we can change and save these lives here compared to doing nothing or conventional treatment.

Buyer Beware Devices

Jeffrey Feldberg: So when it comes to red lights, before we talk about what you're doing, my sense is buyer beware, red lights are popular now where there's money to be made. You gotta be careful of what you're getting or what you're not getting. So what would be some of the dangers with some of the red light offers that are out there right now, or what we should know about with the technology?

And talk about how you're not that and why Red Life is so much different than what we may see out there in a particular ad or what everyone's talking about or on a platform that may not be the case. It's all sizzle, but there's nothing behind it.

Jonathan Otto: Yeah. No, thanks Jeffrey. And to that note, I hope that many of the different things out there do work and it's a hope, right? So I'm not saying they do, I'm not saying they [00:19:00] don't. If I don't know, I don't know. I know that the number one issue is that they don't work powerfully enough.

So even though you'd, say, yeah, well, isn't the bigger problem, for example, if they did harm, that is possible. Let's say it had high EMF or it was a high flicker rate LED, then it would be harmful like the LEDs in your homes that have a problem. But I'm even more concerned by far about there being a low irradiance, which is how you measure the amount of power coming outta a device than I am about anything else.

Because you just saw some of the, or heard me just mention, for example, some of the interesting studies on various types of cancer sites. Then that is the biggest concern. 'cause what happened, the mechanism that I just shared with you, the reason why that was so effective is because light absorbs into the cells and it particularly is absorbed through mitochondrial chromophores, which are light receptors that then will absorb the light, then produce various things.

One [00:20:00] of them is cellular energy, adenosine phosphate, a TP, and the other one is reactive oxygen species. And they will specifically go and target cancer cells and cause apoptosis. Which for those listening and are just saying, well, I'm don't really think about that, but I would like to have more energy.

I would like to have, better sex life. I would like to have less depression. I would like to have a higher functioning thyroid. I would like to have X, Y, Z and the. You'll just feel more energy. So what you're doing when you're clearing out toxic cells or senescent cells, which is zombie-like cells, is that you're shutting down what's draining the energy from your body and you're, spawning new cells, new mitochondria, new stem cells in the body through light therapy to then go and to become the new foundation.

And this is what's continually happening in the body, regardless of whether you're using light or not, but the extent to which it's happening is keeping you alive or it's you're alive, but you're just surviving versus thriving. And so light is going to enhance [00:21:00] all that. So then that then becomes the biggest issue if it's not doing that to the degree that it was, you've invested a lot of time over the course of even just doing 15 minutes a day, you're now talking about hundreds of hours over the course of a few years, and you've invested a lot of time into this.

That's the biggest concern. So I do really believe that people need to think about how much they care about, let's say a car is, once it gets to a certain range, I don't know, what's the number, maybe $15,000 or something like that. From there up, everything is relatively as safe as each other, but there are some nice bells and whistles that make you feel like you're pretty cool at that point, right?

When you get out to a 30,000, 50, 80 200,000 car you, you just feel pretty cool. They may get also a little bit more dangerous once you get up a bit higher as well. Like, They're a little smaller and they look like you go under a semi-truck with these like Lambos that are just like, you're almost like riding on the ground or whatever.

I don't know, but my point being that's not gonna do a lot for you, but the difference then when you're investing in technology [00:22:00] that changes the outcome of your health, I mean, would you trade a Lambo for a kidney or would you trade. Something else for, a house for your brain or your heart, but you, what you're doing is you're interfacing with those organs when you're using red light therapy.

So my biggest concern is people that are not using things that are effective enough, powerful enough. What we did was we put nine of the most proven wavelengths. That's four 80, which is a blue, which is interesting. Doesn't flicker, which is why it's so effective. Blue in the sunlight, you see it in rainbows.

It's extremely effective for skin and circadian rhythm, for skin rejuvenation. Then you've got 6 30, 6 60 there in the red spectrum, they'll activate methylene blue, six 70. That was the eyesight study. That was three minutes. Eyes open in the morning, 17% improvement in eyesight immediately. University, college London.

Fascinating, right? 8 10, 8 30, 8 50. They're all the near infrared. And then 10 60, the highest part of near infrared that gets into the center of the bones. So we put over 200 milliwatts of power at three inches with the irradiance side of things. And then [00:23:00] on the wavelengths we put the nine most proven wavelengths, and then we put dual light so we could get.

Both red and ear infrared evenly spread across the body. And then that's why we got trusted by groups like the Hope for Cancer Treatment Centers, the world's largest cancer treatment center. We've got entrepreneurs that people know about, like Richard Branson using our products regularly if not daily.

And then Lance Armstrong, professional athletes like that, the undertaker who's falls into the athlete slash actor, which would be Mark Callaway with the Undertaker, right? So they're using this for various things where it goes down to eyesight or energy or libido or, just the whole spectrum of different things that people use this for.

It's been extremely effective, and that's an honor for those that are entrepreneurs want wanting and creating great things, that's one of the highest honors of my life, to create things that are used by some of the most productive people in the world to help them be more productive.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Yeah. So Jonathan, what I'm hearing you say, and you can share with me, Jeffrey, you're on base or off base. All red light devices are not the same. What counts are the [00:24:00] types of wavelengths that we're using? And so I can have an expensive red light device, but it doesn't matter how much I paid, if it doesn't have the proper wavelengths, and we'll talk about wavelengths in just a moment.

If it doesn't have the proper wavelengths, then based on what you're sharing, I'm wasting both my time, my money, and potentially my health that the wavelength is everything. And from what you're sharing with the red life lights up to nine wavelengths, so you're finding the most effective wavelengths in the studies clinically in the peer reviewed studies that are also out there.

Okay. What's moving the dial for health? What's that all about and how do we incorporate that in a way that makes sense for Jeffrey and others and Deep Nation? As an example, hey, when you use a Red Life light, you have the best that science has to offer today, the very best of the wavelengths. You're maximizing your time and your health.

It's not a waste of time and money. How am I doing with

that? 

Jonathan Otto: Yeah. Awesome. Yeah, absolutely. 

Protocols Real Results

Jonathan Otto: So the big needle movers here, Jeffrey, are [00:25:00] to me if anyone could think about what is that ritual that I do regularly. And red light could be, I know I'm often talking to high. Impact driven. I was talking to a guy that he was I'll just say his first name, Granger.

There was a deep sea mining operation where they're getting precious metals and they were looking to back at up to 3 billion in funding. So here's a high net worth guy. We were riffing on red light. He knew a decent amount, but not as much as what he thought, right? So I mind, I hope he listens to this.

I'll laugh at him. But and then he was giving me all this kickback that he didn't have time for it. And I was like, you don't have time for three minutes with your eyes open. and he was saying, oh, you know, it doesn't work as good as what you think. I said, if you listen to me, you won't have to wear your glasses anymore.

And then he just stopped talking and started listening. And once he could see that I, I knew my stuff And you know, I've, 'cause I've seen mid 90 year olds get off their readers and restore macular degeneration. I'm not making claims saying that's gonna happen for everyone. I suspect that it will, but I don't, dunno that for a fact.

The average results from the studies are showing that everyone gets improvement. I have [00:26:00] not yet seen people not get improvement. There's gonna only be a couple of reasons for that. There may be some major toxic exposure, like an amalgam that is just causing so much toxicity that as much as I'm trying to get light into the eye and trying to improve different things, I've got too much mercury that's causing an issue.

Just think about that. 'cause it's not a question of whether red light will work for you or not. It definitely works. It just matters how many things that you are stacking against yourself that are causing it to not potentially. Fly like it should. That being said, I see people all the time with metal all through their mouth, taking all the things that I'm saying.

I don't think you should take all those medical interventions that are proven safe and allegedly, and they're getting these injected into their bloodstream. I'm saying I'm concerned about that. My 87-year-old grandma would be one of them but she doesn't have to take her thyroid medication anymore.

She was splitting her. Head because of her cognitive function. Decline that. So then she listened to me when I said, go home with this red light, put this on your head. But because that [00:27:00] worked, not just for healing the scarring, it helped her to heal her thyroid, her aches and pains, her cognitive function, that meant that she was able to then be able to live her life again as a healthy, happy woman and moved back into the home, Jeffrey, that my wife and I helped build for her and finance.

Which she moved out of because of the loss of cognitive function. So guys, for every entrepreneur out there, for every action taker, for every person that is there to make impact, guys, you are often selling out on yourself and Putting yourself on the side, some of you guys more prone to going after your health than the average person.

I wanna acknowledge you for that. It's natural for us to kind of take on a lot of stress and to put our work as priority, and so I just wanna speak to those that are neglecting that and those that aren't. And you're doing what you need to do and that's great. Just look at what you're missing that could make such a difference.

And look at dialing in these protocols more. I would say that if you go after. Just these [00:28:00] simple regimens and routines. I would be getting in front of red light daily. I'd be doing that 15 minutes if you can as little as three minutes, eyes open, straight into the brain, take out the blue. If it's our devices, for example, you could just select that 'cause everything is customizable.

And then get that straight into your brain and body. Watch how well you perform in comparison. And then this is the most important part, guys. Look at who you love and care about. That you really want to stay in your life. That they are so precious to you, like your parents.

And now there's a reason why the Bible, has a commandment in the 10 Commandments that honor your mother and father. If you still have your mother and father with you today, and they don't know about this guys you have to understand like, I'm thinking about everything and everyone that I could help.

And so I am not a full-time carer for my parents or anything like that. they're able-bodied thanks to therapies like this. I spent $30,000 on my dad's knees for his stem cells. That didn't work at all. What we did with a less than $300 product worked way better [00:29:00] than the stem cells for us.

I'm not saying that's gonna be the case for everyone, but I've seen it time and time again. He's doing amazing now. And so I just think about like, who is it that you care about? My grandma getting off a thyroid medication, like these are big things, all those listening with different challenges.

Your husband, your wife your wife's mother. I just had a text from somebody I was this. he's probably gonna talk about it. It was redacted news. But anyway, he said, Hey, my mother-in-law, she wants to get something. And I said, look, my gift to you. ' he did a great job for us on a show.

And he was just blown away. But like immediately, once he learned, he thought about somebody, he cared about that he wanted to be around and have a good life, and he did the greatest thing that he could for his wife. You know how big your muscles are at that point. Stop mattering. But what matters is how much you did for my family at that point.

With your wives, guys, take note of what I'm saying and vice versa.

Jeffrey Feldberg: So let's talk about that because at Red Life what's interesting is you have red light panels, and most of us have probably heard of these or seen these, possibly using these. You have small desktop [00:30:00] ones all the way that go up to the full body. And then from there you have for different body parts, whether it's my hand or a knee or my face, or I put it on my head in terms of a cap, you have belts.

So what's the theory for someone in Deep Nation? Okay, I've heard of red light therapy. It's all over the news these days. It's making headlines, but I don't really understand it. And now Jonathan, I'm hearing you say, wow, it can improve my eyesight. Potentially other health issues, it might be able to help or even cure or reverse what's going on with this?

Why isn't this screaming all over the headlines of this is the way to go? I'm not really seeing that. So what's going on behind the scenes of why this is so effective from a very high level, for someone who's not scientific but wants to understand a high level why red light therapy? You're very specific.

Jonathan. Anything that I've learned about you when I was preparing for today, you don't just choose things randomly. You're choosing things that can make the biggest impact for people, for humanity that's out there and you've chosen red [00:31:00] light. So from a very high level, why is red light as effective as it is?

Jonathan Otto: Oh, that's awesome. No, thank you, Jeffrey. 

How Red Light Works

Jonathan Otto: And look, and I always want to give away every possible tool that can make a difference. And side note would be there are some people that are struggling with different things and if they just took a little bit of nicotine, i'm not talking about smoking, I'm not talking about, I'm talking about gum or patches.

Or lozenges. You could do so much. And it's just speaking to your point, Jeffrey, of what it means to then say, Hey why are you talking about X, Y, Z? ' you know that you don't have unlimited time, energy, money. When it comes to giving people solutions, if I told you a hundred different things, you're not gonna do it.

You may not do a single one, and but if I told you one or two or three things, it could make a huge difference. So I'll explain that mechanism, but the reason why I mentioned about nicotine is because there are thousands of studies now on it, whether it's dementia or schizophrenia or Tourette syndrome or Parkinson's or colitis or arthritis.

It's [00:32:00] proven to be extremely effective. And there's certain mechanisms and reasons for what it's doing to detoxify certain poisons from the body, which is really fascinating. I'm talking about three milligrams or up to seven milligrams a day, which is a small amount. And anyway and I have seen people and.

Walk out of hospital from being paralyzed in days. And this is not talking about if they got in a car accident, I'm just talking about specific viral infections. Ya bere, one of my best friends, his mom, Manny's mom he just put a nicotine patch on her and then she was, Bedridden and hospitalized.

Paralyzed for three months, and then she walked out within a few days and it was just a nicotine patch on her anyway. So you can find tools that will interface directly in this case, it's a mechanism. It's binding to the alpha seven nicotine and acetylcholine receptor. It's purging that poison that's bound to that receptor, primarily through glyphosate and other poisons that are getting put into our body that specifically target that receptor.

Nicotine is preferential for that receptor over any other poison that would bind into it. So it's simply gonna switch plays and now you've purged a poison from your [00:33:00] body, et cetera. So now red light coming to red light, why would that be so effective for different conditions? The reason is because your organs rely on mitochondria.

They're not in red blood cells. Once people get this part of it, they'll realize if they neglect this area of their life, they can't expect to have abundant health. Here's why. Red light is directly interfacing with chromophore. These are light receptors within the.

Mitochondria. They're called mitochondrial chromophore. So they count they're in your organs, they're not in the red blood cells. When the light is then received by these receptors in these cells, in the organs, they now generate cellular energy, a TP. Now when cells have energy, it's the same thing of what I would say for a vehicle.

You'd be like, oh man, you got the best Tesla. That's cool. Great car. I actually don't know whether I'd so flash hot on the battery based cars, but I don't want to get into that. don't have like the most dire warning. I just see there being risks anyway. [00:34:00] So if somebody then just gave me a call, Hey man, my battery based electric car, it's not working. What's the first thing that you would say if you thought this person had no idea? Have you charged it? Okay. And then it doesn't matter how many cool bells and whistles and how good the sound system is it wouldn't matter how cool those bells and whistles work.

None of it would work at all if it didn't have energy and it wasn't charged. And so what light is doing is it's charging the mitochondria, the powerhouses of your organ cells. And then with that, they could do everything like, I'll give you an example. 

Thyroid Study 70X

Jonathan Otto: There was a 350 person study on Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

Now they put two groups, one with red light and supplements, which were D three, iron and Selenium. The other group just with D three, iron and selenium, no red light. Do you don't know how much better the red light group did. Jeffrey, what do you think?

Jeffrey Feldberg: Oh my goodness. I don't even wanna venture a guess because I'll probably be wrong, but I would imagine it's [00:35:00] magnitudes better.

Jonathan Otto: Just say a number 'cause I'm gonna have to put you on the spot so we can

Jeffrey Feldberg: Okay. I, let me say five times.

Jonathan Otto: And that would be awesome. 'cause that's 500%, I was talking to a, like a medical guy and he does blood work. He did a lot of Gary Brecker stuff for him and did the labs and all that. And he was like, oh yeah, maybe 30, 40% increase. And it's okay, that's interesting.

Now you've gone the one up, you've gone five times. Alright, 70X

Jeffrey Feldberg: Wow. Wow. 

Jonathan Otto: 70 times greater at achieving T three, T four hormone balance. This is not me and my wife in our. Lab trying to cook up something to convince people. This is a pub med peer reviewed study that shows you that this was the result.

Now in terms of reducing medication, one fight 15 times greater at reducing levothyroxine dosage or completely eliminating it. Okay. So that was an example of, okay, so what does that prove to you that you have caused the thyroid to be able to produce its own thyroid hormones? Naturally. What does that mean for every other [00:36:00] organ?

Okay. The heart is now able to do what it does produce all the different things that it needs to do by cellular energy, the kidneys, the liver, and chronic kidney disease is affecting over 850 million people. That's a huge portion of the population that are, many of which are sitting on a, list waiting to see if somebody gets in a car accident. because it's just this dystopian reality that's created by failing organ function People don't know that you could regenerate your kidneys, and that's what you can do with red light, just like I showed you with the thyroid. Same thing with kidneys, same thing with the heart.

How much are these organs worth you? How much is your brain worth? Do you Right? The study's done on depression. They test depression one hour after, and then two hours after. It's a dramatic improvement from depression.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Yeah it's, huge. And de both nation. Imagine that if this was, I don't know, a business or some kind of investment, and I said, Hey, for every dollar you invest, you're getting a 70 x seven zero times return de Nation, would you be interested? I bet you would. 

Health Over Wealth

Jeffrey Feldberg: Now, when it comes to your health, can't even put a price on [00:37:00] that or a return on that.

It's invaluable. And what's interesting, Jonathan, as you're talking about this, I've showed this on the podcast a number of times, I will never forget this conversation. Incredibly successful founder, a billionaire later on in his journey in life towards the end of days actually pulled me aside and said, Jeffrey, what I wouldn't give with all the zeros in the bank that I have, what I wouldn't give back to get more life ahead of me, to spend with my family, my children, my loved ones ask me about my successes. I don't remember them, but I do remember my family and I know I'm not gonna be here much longer. And the pain that I feel of knowing that and knowing that my days are limited, I would trade all the business success in the world to have more time with my loved ones and family.

And so here you are, we're talking about a red light device that can, something like the thyroid, it can make a difference in that as well as other areas. And so, Jonathan, would I be corrected? 

Mitochondria And Light

Jeffrey Feldberg: I've heard the human body compared to a battery as an example, with the [00:38:00] mitochondria being our batteries inside our bodies that are charging us.

So if our mitochondria aren't doing so great, if they can't produce the energy well, there's gonna be health issues, energy issues. And what I'm hearing you say that the red lights, specifically from what you're doing with Red Life. Can go a long way to helping our mitochondria get the energy, fire up my body, help get the body back to homeostasis, back to a healthier place than perhaps where it would've been if I wasn't doing the red lights.

How am I doing with that? I.

Jonathan Otto: Yeah. Yeah, you're on point. It's awesome. You get this stuff, Jeffrey, ' you do your research and you obviously took what your colleague said to you seriously. And that's a blessing. And Yeah, it is exactly right. it ends up becoming very simple it's just about giving the body what it needs.

Turns out that you're biologically designed for light. Think about what you're not getting, you're not getting enough light. And then if you're in the beach all day, there's some [00:39:00] downsides to that. 'cause even the animals know how to seek shelter. You look at and then you think, okay, well if it's in, you and I were chatting on this.

What happens? 

Wavelengths And Power

Jonathan Otto: The reason why if you look at the cutaneous lymphoma case on PubMed, why did these three people in the pilot study from 2006, it's on PubMed? Why'd they all go into remission in one week of cutaneous B-cell lymphoma with photodynamic therapy, six 30 nanometer light, and photosensitizer, similar to methylene blue used.

How did they go all into remission in, in one week after just two sessions? That's crazy. Like why isn't why didn't they do bigger studies on this? What's the odds of three people getting a complete transformation? And that's strange, right? and you look at these other studies showing complete remission like that I listed before.

And the answer is that the light devices, when it comes from a light emitting diode, non flicker, LED or laser, what's happening is in those cases, the light irradiance is so high. 'cause with the wavelengths, that's one. And then the one is, I radiance a high radiance, a high amount of power [00:40:00] delivered.

'cause you need those two things to be able to get to the right region. So wavelength is like the, where it lands it's the bullseye where it lands, right? So there's study done on breast cancer and it was triple negative and non triple negative in vitro, which means in a Petri dish.

And what you had was. 6 30, 6 66, 15 as well, and seven 30, and you'd say, okay, well, they're all very close, they're all visible. Red light. It was only six 60 out of all four of those that could drop the breast tumor proliferation by 40% in 24 hours. Okay? it was the bullseye. So the nanometer where it lands is the bullseye, and that's why you've got all these regions of the body, so it makes sense.

And the best devices are the ones that are landing in all these different regions. The reason why a group like the Hope for Cancer Treatment Centers would trust us. As part of their patient program is because it's landing in all these different regions but then it's got a powerful enough signal.

So once it lands there, it's doing what it's supposed to do. 

Sunlight Versus Devices

Jonathan Otto: And then if you compare it to sunlight, it's between [00:41:00] 20 to 40 times the strength of the sun, but without the downsides of that. 'cause if you amped up the sun 40 times, you would just burn. You would just incinerate. So red and near infrared happen to be the most gentle parts of the sun, which is why you can look directly at a sunset and a sunrise.

It's the part of the day that we're almost all missing. Most people are missing sunrises, most people are missing sunsets. And then even when you get it, if you could get that times 10, 20, 30, 40, then that would be why it would be so effective, why you could correct vision quite immediately. And all different types of things, like I mentioned with various organ function.

Jeffrey Feldberg: So what I'm hearing you say, Jonathan, and very specifically is not just red light, it's the spectrum or the wavelength of red light. That's important. It's the power of the red light. It's also how much time that's there. And so I'm hearing you say with the right red light therapy device, it could be from three minutes a day to 15 minutes a day at very specific wavelengths [00:42:00] that could make a difference.

And I'm also hearing you say, sure Jeffrey, you can go outside, but are you catching it at sunrise or are you catching it at sunset? And nature is great and lots of benefits to that if you're gonna do it the nature way. Well, you gotta be there at those specific times and you probably have to be outside longer.

Then the three minutes of 15 minutes, because this is now very concentrated in terms of what we're doing and we've studied this and at Red Life, this is exactly what you're doing in terms of the power, the wavelength, and how long you should be doing it. So three to 15 minutes that's really making all the difference in terms of health and getting back to health and helping my mitochondria.

Not that this is a magic bullet, it's a cure all for everything. It isn't, but it puts us back on track to begin to get there where we can now. Okay, I got this back. What else can I begin to work on in my life, health wise to get me back on track? How am I doing with that?

Jonathan Otto: Yeah. Yeah, you're on point. That's amazing. you Great summaries. I think that's on point. 

Long COVID Study

Jonathan Otto: And people that have remorse after taking said government intervention right over [00:43:00] the last few years, they can look at some of the studies done by the European Society of Medicine, which would be the acute long COVID study that showed a hundred percent success after four sessions.

The reason why I'd say, well, why did I need to bring that up? Well, they did longer sessions than normal. They did 64 to 84 minute long sessions. And it was a total of four sessions within one week. 60 of the 62 had complete recovery, total resolution of shortness of breath, oxygen above 97% saturation in the blood cognitive function, executive function, digestive issues and emotional deficits.

All resolved for all 62 people, 60 of them within a single week, f total of four sessions for all 62 people. So that just means that with people that are feeling like, Hey, look, I kind of wish that I didn't do X, Y, Z, or I had to get that X, Y, Z, whatever equation. Then it can give people the comfort and assurance that it's getting to the root of repairing the mitochondrial function that was damaged.

Which is why I think that those studies are [00:44:00] not getting talked about. Well, I'm not gonna say there's a conspiracy there, but it's just the absence of knowledge has created such an issue for people that have often felt like there wasn't a better way or feeling a bit lost and stuck in their choices.

And if you only knew as well that these then became the most protective things to do, okay, this is what people need to know. 

Body Voltage Blueprint

Jonathan Otto: Jeffrey, this is the big takeaway. If you have the voltage in your body at adequate or exceptional, then you are not a target for cancer or parasites or list goes on EMFs, then, damaging your health or, any decline in the body.

the voltage in your body is how you're safeguarding yourself against these threats, including viruses. And there's more exploration as to what exactly even a virus is, but whatever is transmissible that we're concerned of, what we need to do is amplify a voltage, which would be red light therapy, pulse electromagnetic field therapy, so PMF [00:45:00] mats.

Then in nature, light, sunlight, grounding, swimming in the ocean, all those electrons going through the body breathing, fasting, deep breathing, doing breathing exercises. These are going to help charge various aspects of the body. And then, but the biggest one of all still is toxin removal. Doing a parasite cleanse, getting these poisons outta the body, like using nicotine as an example.

Some of the other things that you and I talked about, which is some of these solutions that, that you can, buy on Amazon and drink that are using salt bases that are used for water purification. But I can't even say the name of that one. But I can say, the sites that people can go to learn more because that they're not flagged, which would be deoxy pia.com, D-I-O-X-I-P-E-D-I a.com.

I would go there and you can learn all about that and why that was working and then why that was so effective for all three of Mel Gibson's three friends, including the methylene blue combination with the red light as I've been talking about the parasite [00:46:00] cleansing. Why did he have three friends that all had stage four cancer that no longer have it anymore?

Well, it makes sense 'cause that's what the protocol is and that's what we're seeing works so effectively.

Jeffrey Feldberg: In deep Deep Wealth Nation, what I want you to think about, and Jonathan, I'll share this with you as well, every guest, and we've had a lot of founders on the deep Deep Wealth Podcast that are in the health space like yourself, they're all saying a very similar narrative even though they're in different areas.

Jonathan, with you, it's all about red light and like the others are saying, Hey, when you give the body what it needs. It knows what to do. There is an intelligence to the body. We are the best, most sophisticated creation ever made in the entire universe. Our body. We take that for granted. When it has the right environment, it can heal itself.

Sick Care Business Model

Jeffrey Feldberg: Now, if we zoom back for just a second, let's take two lenses on this. It can heal itself. From a business side of things, though, as a business owner, I want a business model that's repeatable. I want to be able to charge a lot of money. I wanna make high profits. Unfortunately for a lot of [00:47:00] these health improvement areas, they're terrible business models.

Jonathan, no offense, your business model's a terrible business model. I will buy your red light devices from Red Life and a few other devices, and at least for the moment, that's probably gonna be about it. And compare that now to a lifetime. Subscription to medications, very expensive medications. If I took the health out of it and I said, Hey, what business model do you want?

Well, I'm gonna pick the more profitable one. And that's why, sadly, my own opinion, it's not healthcare, it's sick care. Jonathan, you're offering healthcare and Deep Nation when it comes to big decisions. Am I gonna bring some investors into my company? Am I gonna sell my company? Am I gonna buy a company?

Am gonna go into another market? You need your mental clarity. You need your health, you need your focus. If you don't have that, you're probably gonna make mistakes. And those mistakes can cost you the business. Well, why wouldn't we want to have our health as our first Wealth? So Jonathan, before we start going into wrap up mode, let me ask you a personal question.

I hope I'm not [00:48:00] crossing any lines here,

Jonathan Otto: No, you can never cross the line with me.

Jonathan Daily Routine

Jeffrey Feldberg: and that is personally, what's a day in the life of Jonathan as it pertains to red light? What does it look like for you? What are you doing?

Jonathan Otto: Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, if you saw the visual of me right now, I actually have one right next to me at the desk. Okay. And this is probably one of the most valuable things I could tell people, because if you think that you need to be listening to Anya meditating the hardcore entrepreneurs listening to this are gonna just say, Hey look, that sounds really nice, but you know what I, I guess I'm just gonna die a little younger than what I was supposed to, or just fall apart a little sooner than what I wanted.

And, too bad, right? But, so what I did was, I just made it possible for me. 'cause I know that I, can't, do one. I can't just not do anything for 15 minutes. I can't I wish I could. That would be nice. Meditation, I cool. So yeah, I have done meditation, but I, kind of have needed to get a little bit of guidance because yeah, I think that if red light is [00:49:00] associated for when you might be on a call like this, like right now, I just turned on my red light right now.

And then, so yeah, you would take off your shirt. And so I often will sit here, Jeffrey, between meetings. But if I'm doing a meeting with some other guys that run the company with me I don't have a problem not having a shirt on and them not having a shirt on, whatever, and us just getting the work done and Hey, look, let's catch up on this.

But there's so much of the day where I've gotta go through and look at, do some research, whatever. So I've got the red light going and now what a lot of people are doing is wearing these like thick glasses. You can do that. But the reason why we're not advising people to wear their glasses is because it's so effective for eyesight.

When you've got just a red and near infrared light between 600 and 1100 nanometers, you've got those wavelengths, they're very effective. And so what you do is you just have a light there next to you, or that's what I do while I'm working and it's, sitting nice and close. It is about half a foot away which just means then I could push it a little further and a little [00:50:00] longer than what I would've if I was only doing it.

Like really close to me. And so I might even do an hour a day like that, which is a lot. I might, do like 30 minutes twice a day and some would argue diminishing returns. But there are studies that I'm showing you that are going for these longer periods of time that are showing it to be effective.

But people have to experiment and see what works for their body. But yeah, that's what it looks like for me. At least that 15 minutes or so a day. And it, becomes so easy. And one of the things I try to do, Jeffrey, which you could see 'cause you're looking at me right now, is I'll get up nice and close to it, put my eyes up against it, get it, shoot it straight into my brain, I'm giving myself that signal.

Jonathan, you're awake right now. You need to wake up because my body says, no, you gotta keep sleeping, man. I battle with chronic fatigue my whole life and Lyme disease and other chronic issues connected to Epstein Bar cytomegalovirus, glandular fever. Ross River Fever, chronic nausea, chronic boils, breaking [00:51:00] outta my body.

I had a lot of different issues, so I'm really great. I had to quit full-time work when I was in my twenties. I was a high school teacher once and I was teaching English literature and I was burning out. I could not handle it. I got a child on the way.

I got two boys, seven, four, and soon to be born, and I got a lot more life to live. I got a lot of people that need me, my immediate family, I, I know in the world I got a lot of people that need me. I don't take that like a burden. I just take it seriously. So I've gotta do what I need to do.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Nation, are you hearing this? Jonathan is at his desk. He has one of his beautiful lights on his desk while he is working, doing whatever he's doing, and he's not saying, Hey Jeffrey, you gotta go to a cave. You gotta stay in that cave or up in the sun for nine hours a day. It's, Hey, let's be smart about this.

We have the technology. I fine tune this to get the maximum effect, the minimum effective dose, the maximum effect in the least amount of time. Can you be at your computer with the red light there for 15 minutes or up to an hour? Of course you can. You're doing it anyways. So Deep Health [00:52:00] Nation, why not begin to do that?

Because for me, and again, Jonathan, you can tell me OnBase or off base, why have to deal with something when it's happened, if I can already prevent it. Because for me, it's not about just the red lights, it's, Hey, I wanna not only be healthy, I wanna have a healthy. Lifespan. I want that curve to go up. And it is like a big rectangle is up and it's going all across.

And then when the time has come 300 years from now, boom, there's a sharp decline. Most people, the curve goes up and then it peaks and then it goes a sharp decline down. And those last few years aren't so great when it comes to their final exit that we're all gonna have. And so what we're doing here, you've been smart about this and what I really respect about this, Jonathan, is you've built your name and your reputation on, Hey, this is something that can help you on the health side.

Here's the research, here's what you can do. Try it for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Check out these peer reviewed science journals or whatever else is going on with that. And now you've put that focus into the Red lights to [00:53:00] help humanity in yet another way from all that you've been doing. 

Starter Device Tips

Jeffrey Feldberg: Let me ask you this.

When it comes to red light and before we go into the wrap up mode, when it comes to Red Life and the Red Lights, someone de Both Nation, if they could do one thing around red lights. That can make a huge difference for them, not take a lot of time necessarily. Not even necessarily cost a lot of money.

What could be one thing that they could do that they could see potentially a meaningful difference in their energy, their health, what they're feeling?

Jonathan Otto: Yeah, absolutely. A small device that wraps around you and straps on. It'll sit on you while you're doing whatever you need to do. If I take off this other light, and I'm gonna get Jeffrey to be my witness here, right? So if I put that up against my face does my face look like it got really bright unusually bright like I was watching a sunset, it wouldn't get this red.

This is extremely, like I've gone completely red in the face, right? Correct.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Correct. And deportation, just so you can't see this, I have the benefit of seeing it. Imagine a relatively small mat, or it's even a larger belt that you can put around your [00:54:00] waist, so he's holding it up and so this is something that red light has that I can put really anywhere on my body.

Jonathan Otto: Yeah exactly. So it is just a good example of something that, for example, when you're traveling and I've got top athletes like Tim Tebow and Lance Armstrong, like I mentioned they're even using these smaller devices as well as panels. But what you could do is just get it over your thyroid, get it over your brain.

And do a few minutes. And I just saw a case study it was maybe two days ago, and it was particularly with sciatica, eyesight and energy with just this small. Device, which was awesome. And then I say the same thing, like the same thing I'm saying which is a few hundred dollars literally.

So I think that people need to get started and that might be the thing that just gets somebody, Hey look, I'm gonna start trying this, I'm gonna use something that I'm likely to use. If you go and get what you think is the biggest like the cheapest thing that you could find, then if you're a serious type of [00:55:00] person, you are likely not even to use it.

And your time is worth a lot, right? I wouldn't do something that is gonna make you not really feel like you trust it. 'cause I just don't know whichever devices other devices work or not. I don't know exactly what tech they're using. and so I've got different meters here on this table.

I could show you and run different meters against different devices. And that's what like these top companies do. Dr. Dan Pomp, I think it's fine to. Because this is a business community. It's a nine figure business, right? he's the world's leading expert when it comes to thyroid, right?

So they have nine figure business in helping people with thyroid health. So when they get me in to train coaches and they recommend our devices and he uses it for his health, it's so that they get, the best possible results for their clients that then cause them to be the leaders in that space.

So just think about all of that and you think, okay, now I get it, why they're using something that works. So my encouragement [00:56:00] this sense is get something that you've seen or know about to work and work effectively, and the reason why you would look at getting a red light panel is because you are able to then target all your organs at once and there's a major benefit to that, something going head to groin area, head to toe.

And we can share people some examples of where you could use things like this. And we want to give like discount codes to the audience for people that want that. And regardless of whether you want to get something from my company or not, what I'm saying about redline is true. And it's something that you need, whether it's from, whether it's from me or it's not, I just want people to know about this.

'cause at the end of the day when there's nothing left and we're just all going back to meet our creator, we're gonna think about the quality of life that we lived and the quality of life that we helped others live. And we're not gonna think about how many heroes are in our account. We're just gonna be thinking about that impact.

And so if you can make, by the way, the I Entrepreneurs, if you can make, what you're doing in the financial side count. So it's carrying an impact to the world [00:57:00] so that it's the driver. It's not what you live for, it's what causes you to get your impact to more people. It is what causes you to fund the work in fighting the veins against human growth and potential.

Like human trafficking, human starvation, human health, crisises that exist. Then we need funding for these things. We need successful people, heartfelt people to lead the charge. but I mean, these are the things Jeffrey and I would just say. The rituals, getting something like whether it's a smaller panel, a larger panel, one that goes from head to toe one, that just, hits most of your organs.

It's a smaller panel or a belt that you strap around you. Those would be my strongest recommendations. And you've got cosmetic things. You wanna put a cap on, you wanna get a mask on your face 'cause you like to look young. it's gonna be the best thing. It'll make you look young on your face.

And a lot of you guys, your billboard is your face. It's your money maker. So it's worth it. It's pretty cool.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And Deep Nation for your own reference here at Deep Wealth. I eat what we bake as a saying goes so. At my desk, I have a red light device. And in the [00:58:00] morning it's just me. I'm in my thoughts, I'm in my creative mode. The red light is on. I have my corban cigar, a handmade cigar. That's a whole other thing.

We've got the nicotine going there, Jonathan. Later on in the day, I have the full body length, red light panels and everything that Jonathan's making that I've researched independently myself. And it's all science backed, peer reviewed. Even with the eyesight. It's amazing in terms of how just a few minutes a day, I had reached out to the scientists who first discovered that back in the day over in the uk and we're having some chats.

Yeah, Jeffrey, you gotta do this and that. And the eyes are attached to the brain, and here's what we found. It's incredible what the science is finding. And Jonathan, I really respect the quality and the depth that you're putting into red light and really changing humanity as we know. It's. Through red lights right now, and who knows what is gonna be down the road.

But I wanted to thank you for all the incredible things that you're doing, but we're not done just yet. We're gonna go into wrap up mode very quickly, and let me ask you this. 

Back To The Future Advice

Jeffrey Feldberg: It's a tradition here in the Dupal podcast, every guest, it's my privilege, my honor, [00:59:00] to ask the same question. It's a fun question.

Let me set this up for you. When you think of the movie Back to the Future, you have that magical DeLorean car that will take you to any point in time. So Jonathan, it's tomorrow morning. You look outside your window. This is the fun part. Not only is the DeLorean car curbside, the door is open, it's waiting for you to hop on in which you do, and you're now gonna go back to any point in your life.

Perhaps it's Jonathan as a young child, a teenager, whatever point in time it would be. What would you tell your younger self in terms of life lessons or life wisdom, or, Hey Jonathan, do this, but don't do that. What would it sound like?

Jonathan Otto: Okay. Getting in my DeLorean or the DeLorean that's come to pick me up and I'm gonna go back to a a chapter of my life that I could choose. Yeah.

Jeffrey Feldberg: A any 

point in life to give yourself some advice, anything at all? Absolutely.

Jonathan Otto: All right. Okay. I'm gonna go back to when I got beat up in grade six by my friend Michael Ridley. There we go. We'll 

Jeffrey Feldberg: Oh my [01:00:00] goodness.

Jonathan Otto: Okay. All right.

And then, ' cause I showed up to the fight, which, but I didn't throw a punch. So you could imagine how that would go if he was throwing the punches. I just showed up without throwing any punches. Who does that? What kind of plan was this? Okay, so I'm gonna show up at this point after the fight, not before the fight.

I'm not gonna tell him not to go there. I'm not gonna tell him not to do whatever he did. I'm going to show up after the fight. I'm gonna talk to Jonathan. I'm gonna say, Hey, look, don't worry about this. that shame that you're feeling is just, programming from society. You did what you're supposed to do, which was that you're not called to hurt people.

You're called to help people and heal people. And that's why you couldn't throw a punch. And it's part of your destiny. That's what you're supposed to do. And you showed up because you're brave and you didn't wanna back down. And that's why you did that. And you didn't hit him because you love him and he was your friend and you couldn't do it.

And that's the best thing about you. So don't give up and just follow that light 'cause it's gonna [01:01:00] guide you the most wonderful and amazing things. And don't let anything hold you back from who you are. And don't let anything make you feel like you need to be less of who you are or regret your choices when they were the right choices to make.

And I'm really proud of you, Jonathan. Keep going because you're following your light and I'm so proud of you and this is a perfect moment right now. It's so formative. Just be okay with it.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Wow. Absolutely love that. Don't give up. Follow your light. Actually, it's a great way to begin to wrap things up in terms of forgiving and loving goes right back to you're talking about Jesus at the very beginning and his message, not only message his example for humanity of how to act, how to be what a beautiful example, Jonathan, that you're sharing with us.

Where To Buy And Discounts

Jeffrey Feldberg: And let me ask you this, someone in Deep Health Nation, they have a question for you. They wanna speak to you or the team, better yet they want to pick up some of your products. Where would be the best place online to reach you?

Jonathan Otto: Yeah. Awesome. Of course. Thank you. So we'd love to serve. I'm here to offer some of the best tools and products. And we want also to give [01:02:00] people discounts 'cause it just helps, makes it possible and also allows us to serve in a way that we can. It allows us to get our products to people in a way that causes them to even be able to double down on, maybe getting a few extra things and activate those discounts.

So the best place to go is my red light.com, so very easy domain, my red light.com. And I do have a, another, a site which is more of a regular type of store, which is Red Life Lights. Okay, so one is with the brand name red life lights.com. And the other one was just with the concept of Red Light, which is my red light.com.

The reason why both helpful is that there are some devices, for example, for the entrepreneurs that. they say, look, I just want to get the biggest and the best possible thing. I wanna look at the devices that go head to toe that have electronic stands that can pivot.

And I want to be able to use it in that way. And so you could go check out that@redlifelights.com [01:03:00] and look at the full body panels that head to toe and then, but a lot of folks like getting something that is a little bit more easy to move around the house with those, that kind of moving things around.

Getting something like what with the Red Life Pro 300 max or the 600, which is gonna be typically the width of like a regular adult. You're gonna get like an amazing effect there. 'cause you're hitting all your key organs between your head, from your head to your groin area, you're hitting your key organs.

So those would be great tools. You can also look at the PEMF mats that are full body from head to toe, super affordable. We stacked in the near infrared and red light tech as well as fire, infrared heat therapy into those. And they're extremely effective in getting tremendous results. And so when you go to those sites, when you use this code, and this is not an affiliate code for Jeffrey, 'cause I love that.

What Jeffrey does is really cool where it, he just doesn't want people to think that the recommendation is coming from the place that they're getting a kickback. So Jeffrey's not getting a kickback from me. He'll tell you the same thing [01:04:00] himself. So that code is LIVE25 for 25% off single items available on both sites, and then LIVE30 for 30% off bundles. So that's great.

And the other thing, the last thing I would mention, so LIVE25, so big discounts there. And then the other thing is that we have the red light beds. There are some people that, for example, like I'm a high net worth person. This is gonna be the most motivating thing for me. I want the beds that the clinics have.

Then you could reach out to us through those sites. Hit email and respond to us there. Check out what's on the site, and then you could email us at, or email me at jonathan@redlifelights.com. Or if it's easy for you to remember, jonathan@myredlight.com. You can get me at both those places, J-O-N-A-T-H-A-N.

And I am, I'm looking forward to to connecting with you and helping you, and we'll be supporting you guys through that health and healing journey. And we're offering something that none of our colleagues are, which is the support and how [01:05:00] to use these types of things and how to get the best results.

And so you'll see that we'll have follow-up sessions where you're able to learn from me and some of the other experts in our community to help you harness the best of what you can.

Jeffrey Feldberg: And duplication. My goodness, it doesn't get any better. Firstly, everything's in the show notes. It's a point and click. Go to the show notes. It's all there. And why not take Jonathan up on his offer, not only to pick up some red lights for you, your family, your loved ones, even your business colleagues, and why not Jonathan himself have a call with him, have an email with him, ask him some questions.

He's a world authority, all things health. You'll come outta that conversation a whole lot better. All that said, Jonathan, my goodness. Wow. It's official. Congratulations, this is a wrap, as we love to say here at Deep Wealth. May you continue to thrive and prosper while you remain healthy and safe. Thank you so much.

Jonathan Otto: Thank you so much for having me, Jeffrey. It's been a pleasure and an honor. Bless you. And we'll be in touch, man. And the other thing is just as I sign off, if people also want free resources on how to deal with how to turn around different challenges, we talked about [01:06:00] cancers, the education piece is so critical.

So we've got different resources there. Reach out to us, we'll send you some, a lot of our amazing free gifts. And you could also leave some of those in the show notes. 'cause Jeffrey, my series really well. And I want people to know those tools because when anyone's stuck, I just say, Hey guys, listen to me.

You need to get equipped now. Go and learn these things. And it's why, as well. On the back of my book, you'll see Jeffrey, that Dr. Antonio Himenez says that the research is groundbreaking. It's not just recommended, it's essential. And this is from one of the world's leading oncologists. So this is critical research, Jeffrey and I want people to have it.

So please also give that as a gift to our community. And then as, as well remember that we'll just have those discounts available for a short window. So make sure to grab those if you want them. So thanks again, Jeffrey.

Jeffrey Feldberg: Thank you so much, Jonathan. Keep on doing what you're doing. God bless you. Thank you so much.

Jonathan Otto: Thank you.

Final Wrap And Subscribe

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